Phoenix range = 250m

Veteran · 2004-01-20, 04:38 AM

I may be totally wrong, but wasn't Phoenix's range longer than 250 meters recently?

It is 250m now.

I just seem to recall it being longer.

Maybe I'm wrong.

GreyFlcn · 2004-01-20, 05:04 AM

Hrmm well all of retail I think it's been around 200m

In BETA... well geeze, that used to have somewhere like 1000m range

sutserikeru · 2004-01-20, 08:42 AM

it should get boosted up to about 350m im getting pissed that when im tailing a prowler and am 2 feet away from hitting it, the damn thing explodes >.<

Batousai · 2004-01-20, 09:21 AM

I sleep with my Phoenix every night before i go to bed. I love my Phoenix, I named her Jill. Jill Phoenix what a catche name.

But if its supposed to be a ANTI-VECH. weapon then it should do more damage to vechs. right. I just hate going one on one with a LIGHTING and losing.

i just want my Phoenix to do about 25% more damage then i would be happy.

JakeLogan · 2004-01-20, 09:36 AM

The range doesn't need to be increased that damn thing is good enough.........the striker needs help though....If they don't increase the range on the striker I hope they make it so I can't lock on to a liberator at flight ceiling then fire a missle have it get close then blow up....

Mudflap · 2004-01-20, 09:57 AM

Each empire has their own abilities. If the Pheonix did more damage, it would be, by a longshot, the best AV weapon out there. As it is, it's horrible against air units, it takes a bit of time to fire off multiple shots, but it totally rocks at hitting hidden targets. It also allows the wielder to remain safe behind obstacles or even in a building.

Everyone wants their empires weapons to be the best, but I'd rather see equality among the empires. Keep in mind that this doesnt mean that each empires AV weapon is roughly equivelant, but that the empire as a whole is equivelant. For instance, the NC have the best tank, but the TR have better AV than the NC(because they can lock onto air and vehicles and fire quickly).

Veteran · 2004-01-20, 10:06 AM

I didn't mean to turn this into a partisan sparring-match, but Phoenix is, without question, the best empire AV out there.

Meta-game. Learn it, love it. It's as hard to define as irony or humor, but an integral aspect of PlanetSide that can never be trivialized.

If I could have only one AV weapon until the end of time, it would be Phoenix. Many will agree with me.

As for the Lancer pimps: props, my brothers. May your purple felt hats rest forever straight upon your shizzy skizzies.

Mudflap · 2004-01-20, 10:19 AM

Sorry Vet, I have to disagree.....sorta. The Pheonix totally rocks, but as for being the best AV weapon, that depends on what you're using it for.

The Striker does tons of damage quickly. 3 Striker or Lancer users will take out a vehicle(in sight of course) far faster than 3 Pheonix users. Also, the striker and Lancer are both better AA, because Damage Over Time is important. If an air vehicle has a chance to run, it will. Also, Pheonix users are cloaker bait.

I prefer the Pheonix myself, but I don't discount the other AV weapons as useless. My vanu has the AV cert, and the Lancer is awesome.

Veteran · 2004-01-20, 10:39 AM

The thing about the Phoenix is that you can fire it, scout the terrain, and casually select a target mid-flight. If your initial target is dead before your missile arrives, simply pick a new target.

What other missile system can pick a new target with a human intelligence long after it is fired?

Phoenix owns. I don't blame anyone for preferring the Phoenix.

Mudflap · 2004-01-20, 10:44 AM

Yes, you can select a new target, but if you select a soft taret, you might tickle him. And the rate of fire makes killing soft targets worthless. It has its advantages, just like the other AV weapons. I don't think of it as being vastly superior to the others. just like the Jackhammer isn't vastly superior to the thumper. They both have their uses.

One of my NC guys is a pheonix user, and I'll tell you that against air, it's almost wothless. Air swoops in, fires, then leaves. If a reaver comes against me solo, I'd be lucky to hit it once, whereas you're almost guaranteed a hit or two with both the other AV weapons. Also, if a tank is nearby, you're better off with either of the other AV weapons. Pheonix guiding takes too long. I'm not saying it sucks, far from it, but it's one fo the strengths of the NC, and weaknesses. Too many times I've seen the NC get decimated by airpower.

Veteran · 2004-01-20, 11:04 AM

The thing about Phoenix is you have Decimator to shore up all its weaknesses. Check out Thottbot and you'll see that Phoenix is by far the most certified empire AV in the game. It's no coincedence.

SilverLord · 2004-01-20, 11:29 AM

Simply put: Who wouldn't want a gun that fires missles and you tell it where to go while remaining very safe behind a tree or another obstacle.

Mudflap · 2004-01-20, 11:52 AM

Two words: Cloaker Bait
If you've used a Pheonix, you know about this danger. Besides, it hardly helps to be able to hide behind a tree when a Burster is spamming the area, or thumpers are bashing you, or even a tank or two are roaming the area. Add onto that the fact that your damage over time is less than the other empires, and you see that the Pheonix isn't the best weapon out there.

Veteran · 2004-01-20, 11:54 AM

But if there were a 1 cert skill that let you fire a 0 damage Phoenix, wouldn't you consider it? To see the entire battlefield from the air, and to learn your course of action without the need for air scouts?

Phoenix is strong. It really is.

sutserikeru · 2004-01-20, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Veteran

Phoenix is strong. It really is.

Yes, it is strong, just needs a tiny range increase. Or maybe a speed increase