The best HA equalizer yet.

Spee · 2004-02-09, 04:52 PM

Bear with me, as this is really odd thinking.

But, I think, that, due to the complete EASE that one can kill another with the triple-shot, on a JH, there needs to be some sort of compensation to the jackhammer-ee.

And that would be instant respawn. Similar to sanc.

Now, all the Pro-JH folks will be crying "OH NOES!" as they read this, but, there is an easy solution to it - Dont use triple shot.

Farm XP all you want, but pissing off others due to a weapon mode thats the ONLY indoor instagib available in ADDITION to a lengthy respawn time, is completely unfair to the defenders.

infinite loop · 2004-02-09, 04:53 PM

Huh?

Spee · 2004-02-09, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by infinite loop

Huh?

Tri-shot = Instant respawn. No timer.

Seer · 2004-02-09, 04:55 PM

What a bizarre proposal.

dscytherulez · 2004-02-09, 04:56 PM

Umm...What about 3 guys camping the spawns with jackhammers on triple shot? More kills for them...

Spee · 2004-02-09, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by dscytherulez

Umm...What about 3 guys camping the spawns with jackhammers on triple shot? More kills for them...

OH NOES!!!1 5 XP!

Spawncamping produces such negligible XP, it isnt even worth considering.

ChemicalHex · 2004-02-09, 05:01 PM

And when they're BR20, xp means squat. But for people looking to get on the leaderboard, or to get high up in the dicepoint weekly average, a kills a kill. They should just remove the secondary all together.

Madcow · 2004-02-09, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by dscytherulez

Umm...What about 3 guys camping the spawns with jackhammers on triple shot? More kills for them...

Anybody pathetic enough to spawn camp in an attempt to artificially inflate their kill totals deserves the self esteem issues they're obviously saddled with in real life.

Occasional spawn camping when the situation dictates it is a necessary evil. Spawn camping for the numbers means you're a pathetic tool.

dscytherulez · 2004-02-09, 05:00 PM

What about people who camp spawns for leaderboards? They would be enthralled...

Spee · 2004-02-09, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by dscytherulez

What about people who camp spawns for leaderboards? They would be enthralled...

Well, those guys are douchebags.

SilverLord · 2004-02-09, 05:20 PM

This thread sucks...

We can talk/whine about the JH if it's still instagib after the next patch. kthx

infinite loop · 2004-02-09, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by SilverLord

This thread sucks...

We can talk/whine about the JH if it's still instagib after the next patch. kthx

It still will be. In case you missed it:

Originally Posted by SmokeJumperPS

We found a more subtle way to fix the JH problem.
No more "auto-reload" and we're not nerfing the bullets.

We're simply adding a "firing mode switch delay" of 0.75 seconds. This kicks in when you change from primary to secondary fire modes.

The primary fire mode has a reload time of 0.5 seconds.

The tri-barrel has the increased power of firing three shots all at once.

Now you have to decide whether you want that second primary shot in slightly less time than it takes to switch to secondary, or whether you want to take the delay and switch to tri-barrel instead.

Should work nicely, and doesn't touch the balance of that weapon in a savage fashion at all. It just eliminates the ease of the "four-barrel" attack that occurred previously...which is all we were *trying* to stop.

But, I still have no idea what Spee is proposing here. You saying that using the triple-shot should make the guy who shot it respawn? If so, I say again, "Huh?"

SilverLord · 2004-02-09, 05:40 PM

Wait wait wait...they are not making a longer delay between the tri shot?!!?

Happy lil Elf · 2004-02-09, 05:50 PM

It still will be. In case you missed it:

You do know that the instagib problem does not come from the tri-shot, right? It comes from being able to do a regular shot immediately followed by a tri-shot. Hence the change and a change which isn't in game yet from what I understand.

I think what Silver was getting at was wait and see if that fixes the problem before continuing the whine.

infinite loop · 2004-02-09, 05:50 PM

They went back on the auto-reload after the tri-shot. Reason being, that still wouldn't prevent the quad-shot from firing at the same speed it does now. Instead, they're adding a mode-switch delay. So, there will be a .75 second delay between the first shot and the triple-shot, while performing the quad-shot.