Who was worse: Adolph Hitler of Joseph Stalin?

[AztecWarrior]

NOTE: I'll be damned if this gets sent to the Political Debate forum.

In your opinion, which dictator was worse: German Chancellor/Fuhrer Adolph Hitler or Premier Joseph Stalin?

[Firefly]

There's no reason for it to be in Political Forum. It's a poll on two dead psychotic fuckers. Not republicans/democrats or Christians/evolution.

They were both nuts. They were both homicidal and genocidal freaks of nature responsible for the global upheaval of their time. End of story.

[Mr1337Duck]

I'm going with Stalin, he posed more of a threat in the long run and killed WAY more people.

[Sputty]

Hitler, he may have killed less, but he killed them for a horrible reason

[Rbstr]

and Stalin killed them with hardly a reason at all, whats worse?

I vote both equal

[Derfud]

Stalin was worse. He gave communism a bad face, and a bad name.

[Robot]

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Hitler. Communism gives Communism a bad face and a bad name.

[Happy lil Elf]

Communism gives Communism a bad face and a bad name.

Actually, it's more like human nature gives Communism a bad face

[Cyanide]

Originally Posted by Robot

they were both brilliant political leaders who did terrible things but also helped restore economic status and stability to their respective countries.

At least for a short time. Germany's economy totally collapsed after WWII. Russia's economy is still in the dumps after finally breaking away from communism.

Stalin was definately worse though. He killed way more people and did plenty of very very nasty stuff. Hitler got the media hype because he started a World War. Hitler is the attention whore of the evil psycotic dictator world.


BTW, communism would work great if people weren't so damn human.

[Firefly]

Originally Posted by Robot

they [...] helped restore economic status and stability to their respective countries.

Welcome to my ten-meter zone. The flak vests are under the seat beneath the kevlars.

Stalin was responsible for the regime that brought poverty, destitution, and oppression to his fellow citizens. Not just in Russia, but in every Soviet satellite country. The USSR's biggest economic status was its military. More like, producing equipment to make war. The soldiers themselves were severely underpaid, but they had clothes and a place to sleep and food to eat. Most of the Russian populace couldn't say that at one point in time or another.

Stability was enforced by the secret police and the military police. I wouldn't consider stability a place where you can be arrested and disappear forever. I wouldn't consider standing in line five hours to get toilet paper and bread as a stable, economically-awesome status.

Hitler was responsible for throwing the world- not just Europe- into upheaval. He is responsible for every single death, military and civilian, that came about as a result of ethnic cleansing and World War Two. Soldiers died at his command, or as a result of them. Soldiers died trying to protect their countries from the German war machine. German soldiers died because they thought they were entitled to some fanatical dream that a psychotic madman came up with. Hitler did NOTHING to restore economic status and stability to Germany. His army needed money for food and equipment and supplies. Who the fuck you think paid for that? Some magical cheat-code for unlimited resources? Go back to your cheat hacks and play some more Counter Strike.

Hitler starved his people and bled them dry so his soldiers could pursue the Third Reich and Aryan supremacy. That's not economic status restoration or stability. Where were you when Dresden was firebombed back to the Cro-magnon age? Do you realize the sheer expenditure of money required to put out the fires and rebuild, and care for the homeless and the injured? That was just one city.

Explain to me how a continent involved in brutal combat and occupation is stablility. Where did you grow up, in an abused home at the hands of gun freaks and raving psychos? That's the only way you could see any of those men as stable, because that would be all you know.

You are an idiot and a troll.

[Robot]

Originally Posted by Firefly

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My mistake. I haven't done too much in-depth research on it - only what I've sporadically read. (Which I guess was wrong.) My apologies.

I removed my post so no one else has to read it.

[1024]

Communism is one of those ideas that looks great on paper.

Originally Posted by 1024

Communism is one of those ideas that looks great on paper.

I agree. If it was such a great philosiphy, more than half-a-dozen countries would use it. It's ignorant to believe every single person within a country really gives a damn about the person next to them.

ghost

[Jaged]

Communism could never work even with a close nit group of trustworthy people who all cared about each other. It was originally tried by the Pilgrims when they first landed here. There was massive food shortages and many people died. As soon as they switched to a system where you got what you made and didn't have to share it with everyone else, they flourished, and they celebrated Thanksgiving. I bet they didn't tell you that in history class. The inherent flaw in Communism is that people don't work nearly as hard when the work doesn't benefit them. On the other hand, if you leave people on their own to do what they will with their lives, they end up contributing to societies well being and are happier while doing it.

I should shut up before this moves into polotical debate....