Empire Sunderers?

BadAsh · 2004-05-30, 09:59 PM

What about alternate weapon loadouts for Sunderers?

I was thinking soomething simple like offering the same varients that Deliverers have only the Sunderer should get 4 of these weapons. I was thinking of having them mounted on the roof directly above the 4 wheel wells allowing the gunners on one side to shoot with the same arc the Sunderer now has, but also to aim lower and closer to the ground on the side they are facing...

This vehicle would be formidible indeed, but requires a "crew" of 5 to fully use effectively... which would reinforce the teamwork ethic this game sports so well.

Sowhatchathink?

BIGTROJANMAN · 2004-05-30, 10:12 PM

if you have the guns on the roof above the wheels they would have to move the drivers seat so it wouldnt work like that... good idea though.

BadAsh · 2004-05-30, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by BIGTROJANMAN

if you have the guns on the roof above the wheels they would have to move the drivers seat so it wouldnt work like that... good idea though.

That's just a technicality that is easily worked around... the gunner could sit anywhere and remote the cannon controls so the gunner seats are arbitrary� you just need 4 somewhere.

I just like the idea of a heavy fighting vehicle that can assault a position, move in, and drop off a squad of troops.

Rbstr · 2004-05-30, 11:08 PM

interestion but i want my Gauss Cannon Reaver/Lightning first

BadAsh · 2004-05-30, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rbstr

interestion but i want my Gauss Cannon Reaver/Lightning first

Reaver... NO, Lightning YES. The empire lightning would be cool, but the Reaver is already a spank machine as it is... besides the NC and VS empire guns are not good against air... the TR gun is... so the skys will turn RED with air superiority Reavers.

Baneblade · 2004-05-31, 02:12 AM

Personally, all I would want on one is 6x 20mm (or 12mm) guns...

I would even take out the two 75mm guns, add in 2 MAX spots to make up for it and you have a far more useful vehicle...

Course the overpowered NC version would require a 150mm mounted in the middle with Lightning turrets (75mm and coaxial 12mm) filling in the rest of the spots...and give the MAXes Phoenix style missles...

slytiger · 2004-05-31, 03:28 AM

Are we forgetting that these vehicles(sunderer and delivs) are supposed to be transports? Plus, dont ya think the sunderer is a kinda big target?

BadAsh · 2004-05-31, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by slytiger

Are we forgetting that these vehicles(sunderer and delivs) are supposed to be transports? Plus, dont ya think the sunderer is a kinda big target?

Yeah, but I like the idea of transports capable of blasting through defenses and then dropping off troops.

If the Sunderer had better guns and had a lower arc of fire it would own. As it is now its a SLOW transport that has a HUGE profile and has weapons suited for long range shelling more like artillery and not really defense or attack.

Lartnev · 2004-05-31, 06:47 AM

Hence why it needs bigger guns. It's a shame, I really want the Sunderer to be something that people can jump in, and ride straight into a zerg with more than a snowball's chance in hell of dropping of its passengers.

Nalar · 2004-05-31, 10:31 PM

I was thinking soomething simple like offering the same varients that Deliverers have only the Sunderer should get 4 of these weapons.

Quick question though: if they are to be the same as the deli varients, what would you do for the TR version which already has 4 guns? make 8 guns on the sund version and have a crew of 9?

Onizuka-GTO · 2004-05-31, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Nalar

Quick question though: if they are to be the same as the deli varients, what would you do for the TR version which already has 4 guns? make 8 guns on the sund version and have a crew of 9?

well to be fair, because its a larger and heavily vehicles, you could still have two gunners, with maybe twin-linked 25mm? A hail of bullets fits the build in my option. I still don't understand the developers idea of more bullets/more crew....

The previous post was an idea for a common pool version.

Smoke cover really does make a difference, it's therma/laser/visibility cover cannot be underestimated.

Baneblade · 2004-05-31, 11:14 PM

Why not just take all the guns off the Party Bus and give it a timed cloak...

Onizuka-GTO · 2004-05-31, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

Why not just take all the guns off the Party Bus and give it a timed cloak...

.......... ?

And that fits the theme for...which empire?

Baneblade · 2004-05-31, 11:33 PM

Empire themes...easy

TR: Stretch version that carries 2 more infantry and 2 more Rexos

NC: Slightly more armored and stretched enough to take on 2 more infantry

VS: Floats and is otherwise as is now (cloaked of course)

Course the cloak doesnt really need to be timed if they get more visible as they get faster...

Cryptica · 2004-06-01, 01:21 AM

I dunno from what I hear the phantasm supposedly would be a cloaking transport...I dunno though I haven't heard too much.