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Old 2004-07-06, 12:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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[RANT/News]Lawmakers Attack Violent Video Games


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Blah, blah, blah, boring hippie shit, as to not offend anyone or ANYthing at ALL, let's all move onto a hill and only eat tofu and animal excrement, video games kill children, video games caused Columbine, some faked quotes from military members that magically don't tell you who it came from that seem to suggest that Grand Theft Auto is LIKE the battles in Operation Iraqi Freedom, more boring "experts" who admit that they don't play video games, in summary let's ban violent video games.
Note: For the sake of expediency, the example kid is a "he." Sorry to all the women.

You know what really pisses me off? This crap. Gasp, I'm now a sociopathic killer who will explode in a burst of violence at any given moment. Please. THIS is the real problem:

The family unit has been fragmented to hell, to the point where a significant amount of kids have just one parent, or, in the more frequent case, parents who listen to the "experts" tell them how to run their kids: Don't HIT him, it might hurt him.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE, THEN?

You HIT a kid to SHOW him that something is WRONG. You're damn right it damages him, but kids aren't crystal vases about to fall over a tabletop. If you don't hit him, he'll never learn, and if you just don't at all, he ends up a drug dealer or something. We can't PUNISH the kid by not letting him see the fireworks YOU got him on the Fourth, it might hamper emotional development or something like that.

I love my parents, who will still hit me if I do something wrong, will still hand out serious punishments (as in not "Go to your room and play Game Boy for the rest of the afternoon", more like "Hand me your mouse and keyboard, no computer for the month.") But, have I been absent for a month? No...I LEARNED and behave WELL. I'm not a hate-filled kid ready to go off against ****, gays, and Insert Other Minority Here's, I'm not a depressed-as-hell emo kid who cries when he knocks over a glass, I'm *gasp* normal. And I play videogames, shoot guns, and other stereotypical *risk factors*.

Choo, choo! The clue train is almost at its destination! Now, what if your kid is generally screwing up in school, hanging around with other Trenchcoat Mafia types (and doom on you if you don't know who he's hanging around with, then you are sucking at being a parent), and other hate-filled things like that: THEN you need to get OFF your ass and impose some restrictions.

These restrictions should not have to be done by a Congress, which then bans all Video Games/Guns/Violent Movies, which ends up hurting the majority.

It's the parent's job to make sure these kids don't end up killers.

"But what about adult killers?" Adult killers are grown-up teenage killers who fall into the wrong groups (like that shooting where a Neo-Nazi went into a Jewish Daycare and unloaded an Uzi), or mentally unstable people (a.k.a "Going Postal").

Let's take a quote from the article:

"There's a culpability here that should be shared by those who are training kids to kill," Thompson said.
Training kids to kill. Gasp, that sounds serious. Video games make this country unsafe, doesn't it?

Therefore, how come kids in Afghanistan, during both wars, have been seen fighting, yes, killing? There aren't video games there.

After all, clicking a mouse teaches you to kill, like it wasn't already blatantly obvious that to kill someone, you aim the weapon at them and pull the trigger. The fact of the matter is: Killing over the ages has gotten simpler for a reason. First, you had to use a bladed or dull weapon, slashing at your opponent, while blocking attacks coming at you. Killing was an art. Bows needed lots of training to perfect one's markmanship to the point where he became deadly.

About since the invention of the crossbow, where you had to aim and pull a trigger, killing is simple to the point where teaching someone to kill is as easy as possible, to quicken training to make quick reinforcements possible. And it's very easy, to the point where just a glance gives you a good idea of how to work it.

Now, a good parent would make clear that what is on the screen is fiction, and that people don't "respawn", and that you should NEVER do that in real life. Even better parents would actually go shooting with their kids, which teaches them gun safety. A kid without gun safety, with a gun is dangerous. Most people think a gun is unloaded when the clip is empty, but there can be a round in the chamber.

A good parent would cut off the video games if she saw the kid was becoming dangerous. But I guess most parents just can't see that.

Now, the clue train has reached its destination: Video games, especially violent ones, make people angry. Gasp. It's called "Putting on a game face." It's not easy to go through an abandoned building, killing zombies, or to be in a deathmatch tournament, and this is reflected in the games. People get pumped up about it. But, let's assume...that it IS genuine anger.

We'd also have to ban the following activities for causing "anger".

-Violence in movies, music, etc.. Well, that one gets blamed a lot...
-Professional Sports. Have you seen what rival fans DO to each other? Haven't you seen the RIOTS when someone loses a championship? CLEARLY this is an antisocial activity.
-Meat. Butchering animals is too similar to butchering humans, and teaches butchers to become violent kilers.
-Vegetables, fruits, and others. Some vegetables have to be violently cut, which makes them too similar to the cutting of a human. Peanuts are RIPPED out of the ground, making it too similar to ripping out someone's hair, ear, or head.
-Surgeons. They ALREADY know how to kill, and they have the TOOLS to do it. Hell, they're more of a threat than video games!
-Automobiles and driving. Road rage kills! After all, aren't cars "Vehicluar Manslaughter waiting to happen", because guns and video games are "Murder waiting to happen?"

All these activities are ridiculous, yes. But the SAME arguments are made against video games, what's the difference?

Oh, I forgot: Here's the article: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ame_violence_1
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Old 2004-07-06, 12:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I love when people blame video games for violence, when the real obvious problem is parenting.
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Old 2004-07-06, 02:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Originally Posted by Hamma
I love when people blame video games for violence, when the real obvious problem is parenting.
absolutely. I hate those parents that say "My son was selling drugs and robbed over a dozen 7/11s. Its grand theft auto I tell you!!"
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Old 2004-07-06, 04:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally Posted by Hamma
I love when people blame video games for violence, when the real obvious problem is parenting.
Indeed. I really have little sympathy for children who imitate media (of any kind) and get themselves killed. It's called keeping stupidity out of humanity's genetic pool.
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Old 2004-07-06, 12:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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It is rediculous

The only ones that kill becasue of vidoe games are ones that are realy messed up already.
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Old 2004-07-06, 01:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Someone who has a bratty, spoiled, violent asshole of a kid is going to blame every last person and cause on Earth before they take the time and introspection to realise that they, and only they, are to blame.

Martyr's mom's a teacher, I've heard tons of stories from her about the parents of these asshole dimwits who blame the school's lack of "professionalism" and the teacher's lack of dedication (this woman calls people at home just to ensure the kid is understanding everything alright and takes her kids on trips) - when in reality, the parent is working 12 hour workdays, is never home, doesn't know shit about their own kid, and thinks their child is the most wonderful, innocent creature in the world. All the while the kid's rolling a doobie talking about how retarded their parent is.

Gimme a break. Don't have kids if you're an idiot.
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Old 2004-07-06, 01:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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You know, most of the shootings that happen are really parents fault. Like the kids that shot up the high school, with AK's and under their bed? NOT THE PARENTS FAULT!

Parents buy kids M rated video game, kid gets violent (even though he was before) kids blame video game video game gets sued parents get $$$$$

Thats how it works right now.
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Old 2004-07-06, 01:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Dude, I totally hung out with the trenchcoat mafia at my school.


But, we really didnt do anything hateful. We played DnD(SATAN!!! OHNOES) and LAN-ed.

A Mafia of geeks. w00t.
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Old 2004-07-06, 06:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Spee
Dude, I totally hung out with the trenchcoat mafia at my school.


But, we really didnt do anything hateful. We played DnD(SATAN!!! OHNOES) and LAN-ed.

A Mafia of geeks. w00t.
A mafia of geeks and ignorant racists. And you just associated yourself with them(at the school, I know you're not bad )
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Old 2004-07-06, 07:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Pfft. My parents have never hit me, and I'm perfectly fine. They give me GTA3 and Vice City, and I've never killed anything larger than a tissue box. They let me build spudguns, and the glue fumes didn't hurt me much.

Both sides are wrong on some points.
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Old 2004-07-06, 08:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Originally Posted by OfaLoaf
Pfft. My parents have never hit me, and I'm perfectly fine. They give me GTA3 and Vice City, and I've never killed anything larger than a tissue box. They let me build spudguns, and the glue fumes didn't hurt me much.

Both sides are wrong on some points.
Same. My parents never hit me to punish me. And i ain't selling drugs, robbing places, etc. Although i got into a few drugs a while ago, it wasn't my thing, and i was able to realize that for myself, and not just follow along with my "friends."

I've also played GTA3 and GTA:VC, and some of the most violent games you could think of. Who hasn't...?
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Old 2004-07-06, 09:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Originally Posted by OfaLoaf
Pfft. My parents have never hit me, and I'm perfectly fine. They give me GTA3 and Vice City, and I've never killed anything larger than a tissue box. They let me build spudguns, and the glue fumes didn't hurt me much.

Both sides are wrong on some points.
Fair enough, revision. He won't necessarily fall into drug dealing, but it is much more likely to happen. Some parents are reluctant to hit their kids, but some kids, thankfully, don't fall. However, a lot do.
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Old 2004-07-06, 09:09 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by OfaLoaf
Pfft. My parents have never hit me, and I'm perfectly fine. They give me GTA3 and Vice City, and I've never killed anything larger than a tissue box. They let me build spudguns, and the glue fumes didn't hurt me much.

Both sides are wrong on some points.
arent kittens about the size of tissue boxes?
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Old 2004-07-06, 09:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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A mafia of geeks and ignorant racists. And you just associated yourself with them(at the school, I know you're not bad )
...Sicne when are we racist? By "trenchcoat mafia" I meant a bunch of kids who watched a lil too much Matrix and liked the long flowy trenchcoat thinger.

And, as it turns out, The trenchcoat isnt veyr practical. The weather in Michigan is either really fuggin' hot, or really fuggin' cold. The temperature to wear a trench is 50-60. Not 110, or -12.
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Old 2004-07-06, 09:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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I would wear a duster, but ppl keep trying to sell me trenchcoats...ignorant metrosexuals...
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