More Progress in Iraq

Lonehunter · 2006-06-08, 09:18 PM

Zarqawi, we got him.

http://www.break.com/movies/baddayzarq.html

LimpBIT · 2006-06-08, 09:20 PM

pwned

Peacemaker · 2006-06-09, 12:26 AM

They came. They tried to take all our base. We launched all zig.

Kikinchikin · 2006-06-09, 01:37 AM

rolled

Hamma · 2006-06-09, 08:39 AM

I wonder how he liked playing catch with a couple thousand pound bombs.

Lonehunter · 2006-06-09, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

I wonder how he liked playing catch with a couple thousand pound bombs.

Two 500lbs bombs

Hamma · 2006-06-09, 11:39 AM

Ah well, a thousand pounds worth of bombs

Setari · 2006-06-09, 12:10 PM

That's a huge amount of ordinance for the two-story house he was hiding in. CNN has the video of the bombs dropping.

Giovanni · 2006-06-09, 09:38 AM

Hmk... so one guy out how many? He's dead... another will take his place.

BlackDrop · 2006-06-09, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Giovanni

Hmk... so one guy out how many? He's dead... another will take his place.

He was the top dog next to Osama. The article on yahoo news that I read yesterday said that most of his top aides have been taken out over the past year as well.

Who will take his place? Who determines this? You think they have some sort of command structure? If they do, will the next guy be as smart and slippery as Zarqawi? Taking out Zarqawi brings them one step closer to containing the situation.

Maybe the next guy will be just as cunning and ruthless. Maybe the next guy is a complete moron.

A lot of ifs and maybes for Al Queda there when they are trying to win a "war".

Seems there was a pretty big terrorist plot that was uncovered in Toronto - they were looking to take out the (/edit)CBC building. Canadian officials working with U.S. officials headed them off at the pass.

We have to keep shaking them up and catching them off guard.

Sticking your head in the sand is counterproductive and will get people killed.

Kikinchikin · 2006-06-09, 12:51 PM

You also have to factor in that Al Qaeda and its supporters are by nature very radical and spiritually zealous people. Zarqawi was practically an idol to them, and thus, with his death, the entire organization will suffer a huge blow in momentum. You can argue that the death of a figurehead doesn't help much, but in this case, he was much more than that. It's the next best thing that could have happened other than Osama himself getting killed.

Giovanni · 2006-06-09, 01:31 PM

But for them... isn't dying as a martyr the greatest honor?

I'm not saying his death is a bad thing. I'm still heading for the army (should be leaving in 3-4 months). I won't be with you guys in Iraq sadly but in a year from there I'll be posted in Afghanistan.

I'm just asking... did his death really do anything significant? Will it truly push them back in their holes due to the blow? Or will it only put a small dent that will only motivate them to push on us even harder?

Firefly · 2006-06-09, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Giovanni

But for them... isn't dying as a martyr the greatest honor?

To the average moron on the ground, yes. In other words, if you're an uneducated stupid crunchie, you are CANNON FODDER. They make martyrs out of themselves because they are told this is the right thing to do.

However.

You don't see guys like Bin Laden, Zawahiri, etc serving themselves up to be a martyr, do you? You don't see imams and sheihks and ayatollahs of rock-and-rollas standing around going "Shoot me, infidel!" do you? No. You don't. Because they know the religious law, and have perverted it to their own ends. They have convinced others to do the dying, for their own purposes.

Lonehunter · 2006-06-09, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

You don't see guys like Bin Laden, Zawahiri, etc serving themselves up to be a martyr, do you? You don't see imams and sheihks and ayatollahs of rock-and-rollas standing around going "Shoot me, infidel!" do you? No. You don't. Because they know the religious law, and have perverted it to their own ends. They have convinced others to do the dying, for their own purposes.

Perfect.

Friend of mine asked me after seeing this, "So was 2500+ dead troops worth his death?"

To witch I told him, "I wish I could tell you how many lives we prevented him from taking, but we'll never know."

Firefly · 2006-06-09, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lonehunter187

Friend of mine asked me after seeing this, "So was 2500+ dead troops worth his death?"

Attributing all 2500+ deaths to this guy is essentially the same as attributing them all to bin Laden.