Battlefield wreckage....

Peacemaker · 2011-02-22, 01:33 AM

Ok, so I'd just like to see some wreckage stick around longer. Maybe make it so engineers can deconstruct wreckage, and measures are taken to prevent TOO much wreckage. For example if a reaver crashes into a field the system says to its self "Is wreckage present within 400 meters?" No? Make wreckage
Is wreckage present within 400 meters? Yes! Is area hot spot? Yes! Is wreckage present within 50 meters? No. Make wreckage!"

This way a courtyard or a battlefield would become filled with wreckage, usable as cover by infantry. Direct fire can destroy the wreckage or engineers can clear it (Considerably faster). Could make it easier to push out of a base into the court yard if you can make some extra cover. Itd also be cool to drive / fly past a battlefield with 10 destroyed tanks in a field that happened like 15 minutes ago. (Wreckage would deconstruct after 20.)

Bags · 2011-02-22, 01:37 AM

Add to that: Don't let softies push wreckage like they can now.

PsychoXR-20 · 2011-02-22, 02:21 AM

I always wanted destroyed vehicles to hang around longer, they made excellent cover for infantry.

DviddLeff · 2011-02-22, 03:51 AM

Good idea, it just adds to the sense of chaos and destruction on the battlefield.

I also want wrecks to burn; smoke rising into the sky...

Traak · 2011-02-22, 04:30 AM

...and the wrecks to be impossible to move except by another vehicle of the same class. If a Vanguard goes down, then it would be immobile unless another Vanguard, Prowler, or Magrider bulldozed it out of the way.

Firefly · 2011-02-22, 08:31 AM

Leave it lying around as an obstacle. Particularly for urban area blockages.

Manitou · 2011-02-22, 08:49 AM

Agreed. This is critical, in my opinion, for the "immersion" aspect of the game. It also adds the need for newer tactics that take into account infantry movement within the wreckage.

Could engineers take the scrapped material and make obstacles, possibly?

Robert089 · 2011-02-22, 08:56 AM

The amount of times I've been taking cover behind that destroyed AMS or tank just to have it decon and leave me in the open... I support this idea!

Miir · 2011-02-22, 10:18 AM

I like this idea as long as it doesn't affect game performance.

Would you want them to be cumulative? So you can push them into piles for road blocks/defense purposes? Like "damn the back door has 30 destroyed tanks in front of it again... we need a demo expert in here!"

Or

Would you have it so there is a minimum distance between wrecks so a ground troop could navigate through a battlefield full of wreckage strictly for cover?

Firefly · 2011-02-22, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Miir

Would you want them to be cumulative? So you can push them into piles for road blocks/defense purposes? Like "damn the back door has 30 destroyed tanks in front of it again... we need a demo expert in here!"

It used to be a standard tactic to mine a back door area and then stack full ANTs at the back door. It was incredibly effective for ruining a back door drop. That got ninja-nerfed, and then there came a few effective counters such as an EMP + OS combo, and/or a Liberator tank-buster bombing run ahead of the drop.

Canaris · 2011-02-22, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by 0Shadow0

The amount of times I've been taking cover behind that destroyed AMS or tank just to have it decon and leave me in the open... I support this idea!

QFT

TRex · 2011-02-22, 12:44 PM

Nice idea ...maybe you could expand this idea and have common pool engineering vehicles ( like ant ) sort of like bulldozers to help clear said wreckage or mound it up . Could work if the game engine allowed you to climb up and over some of it.
If a tank blows up in a courtyard , for example , maybe said bulldozer could pick it up and throw it into a silo 'skip' to claim back some NTU's from it . Would be hand if a base was surrounded .
Maybe the whole engineering thing could include like irl ..build temporary bridges across gaps/ rivers and give it a whole new dynamic of support .
Heck , the mag-mower is dead , long live the bulldozer mower.

Canaris · 2011-02-22, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by TRex

Nice idea ...maybe you could expand this idea and have common pool engineering vehicles ( like ant ) sort of like bulldozers to help clear said wreckage or mound it up . Could work if the game engine allowed you to climb up and over some of it.
If a tank blows up in a courtyard , for example , maybe said bulldozer could pick it up and throw it into a silo 'skip' to claim back some NTU's from it . Would be hand if a base was surrounded .
Maybe the whole engineering thing could include like irl ..build temporary bridges across gaps/ rivers and give it a whole new dynamic of support .
Heck , the mag-mower is dead , long live the bulldozer mower.

You wouldn't need to add an entire vehicle for removing wrecks, what if instead the Engineers glue gun had a second setting that you can point at a wreck to speed up it's decon via nanites?
Wrecks could have a specific timer that they will eventually decon on there own due to the natural nanites around.

Hamma · 2011-02-22, 07:23 PM

I really like this idea as well, the way stuff decons is rather stupid sometimes. I understand why it's done and it would have to be a consideration in PSN as well.

I hate hiding behind things only to have them disappear and wonder if the enemies on the other side could even see the wreckage - was I kneeling in the middle of an open field?

Raymac · 2011-02-22, 07:30 PM

Holy shit, I can't believe everyone is in agreement on a topic. Well add me to the list. I'm Raymac and I support this message.