London Riots

[Snow]

Does anyone else here live in London?

The riots haven't properly spread to where I live but a vehicle was set on fire on my street this evening and I've had three separate friends who have had to leave their homes for fear of arsen or looting.

I hope if you live in London you're staying safe.

[NUBLERT]

That is some scary stuff (I just read a little about it). I would be buying ammo...

[DreaM]

Originally Posted by Real Lyte

That is some scary stuff (I just read a little about it). I would be buying ammo...

For the guns that we don't have?

It's bloody good fortune that these morons aren't carrying guns to be honest, this could be a potential blood bath.

[Snow]

They're now reporting looting and burning in Ealing where I work.

[Hamma]

Last I checked law's don't stop people from carrying guns.

I know I'd be carrying mine all around my house if this was happening around me.

[NUBLERT]

Originally Posted by DreaM

For the guns that we don't have?

It's bloody good fortune that these morons aren't carrying guns to be honest, this could be a potential blood bath.

Mindless violence indeed.

Originally Posted by Hamma

Last I checked law's don't stop people from carrying guns.

I know I'd be carrying mine all around my house if this was happening around me.

This^.

[Hamma]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe....html?on.cnn=1

In Croydon, south of London, a sofa factory and surrounding shops and homes were set ablaze and a 26-year-old man was seriously ill after being found with a gunshot wound, police said.

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[Robert089]

Originally Posted by Hamma

Last I checked law's don't stop people from carrying guns.

I know I'd be carrying mine all around my house if this was happening around me.

I am not 100% sure about the gun laws here in Britain but I know handguns are illegal. Rifles and shotguns are legal with limitations.

It is probably only a matter of time before a shop owner who owns a shotgun uses it to defend himself...

[p0intman]

if people in london put as much effort into fixing the european and world economy as they have this riot, the world might be in a better place.

rioters gonna riot, though, so...

[Duddy]

There's been riots here in Birmingham too, just not been as widely reported.

You can see some of what has been going on here:
http://birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com/

[Surge72]

I live in London and for the past two days have very occasionally been looking out of my window to convince myself that it is quiet in my area.

Pretty worrying I must say. I've just been watching The Big Bang Theory today instead of following the news as its too depressing and pissing me off whats happening - all the while keeping an ear on the street outside just in case.

And thank fuck guns are illegal. The situation would be so much worse if these morons were armed.

[Hamma]

Again, guns being illegal does not stop criminals from having them criminals don't obey laws?!?!

[Vancha]

Originally Posted by Hamma

Again, guns being illegal does not stop criminals from having them criminals don't obey laws?!?!

True, but it's much harder to get ahold of guns here because of their legal status. There's certainly far less guns than there would be if they were legal, and most of the rioters aren't "criminals" of the kind who'd own a gun.

[Manitou]

Originally Posted by Vancha

True, but it's much harder to get ahold of guns here because of their legal status. There's certainly far less guns than there would be if they were legal, and most of the rioters aren't "criminals" of the kind who'd own a gun.

Criminals use what they can to accomplish their idiotic and anti-social goals. The reason there aren't many guns in Europe is the forms of government you have there and their attitudes towards an armed civilian populace. Just the number of registered hunters in America exceeds a million people easily. They all have guns with which to hunt. If your logic followed, then whenever there was a riot in America, there would be gunfights everywhere. But that isn't the case. Your populace are sheep ready for the slaughter--one wolf in the sheep pen and it's over. We have plenty of sheepdogs who have teeth and are ready to defend themselves and the ones who can't defend themselves.

[Duddy]

Originally Posted by Manitou

Criminals use what they can to accomplish their idiotic and anti-social goals. The reason there aren't many guns in Europe is the forms of government you have there and their attitudes towards an armed civilian populace. Just the number of registered hunters in America exceeds a million people easily. They all have guns with which to hunt. If your logic followed, then whenever there was a riot in America, there would be gunfights everywhere. But that isn't the case. Your populace are sheep ready for the slaughter--one wolf in the sheep pen and it's over. We have plenty of sheepdogs who have teeth and are ready to defend themselves and the ones who can't defend themselves.

Whilst I respect your opinion I vehemently disagree. I'm sorry, I don't pretend to know much about crime in foreign countries and I would question what you know also.

One of the large reason we don't widely legalize guns in this country is that you get an arms race. Because we don't widely use guns very few, including the criminals, need to carry a gun to protect themselves. I'd be willing to bet, population difference taken into account, that there is far less robberies at gunpoint here than over there.

Whilst you're right in that it means we have less at our disposal for self defense it also means that, generally speaking, you're less likely to be held at gun point.

Anyway let's not pursue that thread of discussion, because every discussion on foreign policy always descends into chaos. If you would like to open said can of worms, start a new discussion.

Back on topic, it would appear things have continued tonight, if less severe than before.