Friendly Fire

Kaotc · 2012-01-27, 10:52 AM

ive had a look through the info posts can cant see anything recent discussing this, so thought i would put up a post.

Has there been any information regarding how friendly fire will work in PS2?

im a bit worried about the F2P aspect bringing in a billion immature players, that will have the sole aim of being assholes....

the one good thing about subs based games is that generally there is a higher calibre of mature players onboard.

is there any information out there about what measures are being put in place for this?

Vash02 · 2012-01-27, 11:06 AM

I believe a modified grief system that PS1 used is in PS2.

Exoskeleton · 2012-01-27, 11:11 AM

Oh this is serious, every now and then such player appears and sabotages his team. In a game with hundreds of players on each side at the same time, the percentage of such players would definitely be higher.
I'm all for no friendly damage, or at least a server option to enable/disable friendly fire, so that we can choose when joining a server, a server with FF on or one that has it disabled.

Kaotc · 2012-01-27, 11:15 AM

see i am all for friendly fire, i think its an important part to the game.

But with it being F2P, im worried about the exponential increase in tossers playing, and am wondering if we have had any insight from the Dev team into how the idiot factor is going to be mitigated

basti · 2012-01-27, 11:17 AM

Friendly Fire has to be on, at all times. Everything else will result in madness. Imagine 20 guys trying to push through a door:
With FF: The first few of the 20 that rush shoot, a few guys further back aim for the holes, others use weapons that have an arc to shoot their stuff over the friendly heads.

Without FF: Everyone just Spams crap.

Warborn · 2012-01-27, 11:21 AM

Grief points worked pretty well in PS1. TK'ing was not intentionally done much at all. I think having friendly fire in while keeping something like the grief point system would work well again.

Saintlycow · 2012-01-27, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by basti

Friendly Fire has to be on, at all times. Everything else will result in madness. Imagine 20 guys trying to push through a door:
With FF: The first few of the 20 that rush shoot, a few guys further back aim for the holes, others use weapons that have an arc to shoot their stuff over the friendly heads.

Without FF: Everyone just Spams crap.

You're assuming that bullets go through teammates, which the hopefully wont

basti · 2012-01-27, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Saintlycow

You're assuming that bullets go through teammates, which the hopefully wont

No, i dont. I assume that they would be blocked, but just dont do any damage on friendlys. And thats just as stupid.

Friendly fire needs to be on, at all times, forever. Its nessesary for the game, simple as that.

Saintlycow · 2012-01-27, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by basti

Friendly fire needs to be on, at all times, forever. Its nessesary for the game, simple as that.

I agree, but with the free to play aspect, someone can make multiple accounts after one is banned and abuse the system. They could tie accounts to credit cards... But this is Sony we're talking about

Tikuto · 2012-01-27, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by basti

Friendly Fire has to be on at all times.

Tasorin · 2012-01-27, 11:55 AM

Friendly Fire must be enabled at all times.

Xaine · 2012-01-27, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Tasorin

Friendly Fire must be enabled at all times.

This.

FF is one of, if not THE most important aspects of Planetside.

NickPapagiorgio · 2012-01-30, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by basti

Friendly Fire has to be on, at all times. Everything else will result in madness. Imagine 20 guys trying to push through a door:
With FF: The first few of the 20 that rush shoot, a few guys further back aim for the holes, others use weapons that have an arc to shoot their stuff over the friendly heads.

Without FF: Everyone just Spams crap.

Agreed. For an example of this, see Battlefield 3's "Metro" map with FF on (no spam) and FF off (neverending nade/rocket spam and 0 tactics).

Gortha · 2012-01-31, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by basti

Friendly Fire has to be on, at all times. Everything else will result in madness. Imagine 20 guys trying to push through a door:
With FF: The first few of the 20 that rush shoot, a few guys further back aim for the holes, others use weapons that have an arc to shoot their stuff over the friendly heads.

Without FF: Everyone just Spams crap.

This!

And we need the PS1 RoE System back. But with harder restrictions/penalties for casual players.

If there is someone who just joins the game from time to time to ruin the Fun of others the RoE-system should hit him harder than an active player who accidentially hitted a few guys with a Grenade.

Perhaps SOE finds a way to implement something like this.

Greetz

BlazingSun · 2012-01-31, 11:28 AM

Just keep it as it was. More Game-Moderators this time around would be no mistake though.

Originally Posted by Gortha

If there is someone who just joins the game from time to time to ruin the Fun of others the RoE-system should hit him harder than an active player who accidentially hitted a few guys with a Grenade.

"Hit" is an irregular verb.