Planetside 2: FPS vs RTS

[VioletZero]

As I've noted in another thread, there seems to be a split in the community on which direction Planetside 2 should be going in. Many threads seem to boil down to this question: Should it be more akin to an FPS or RTS? Planetside contains significant portions of both, but if the balance tipped one way or the other, which would you prefer?

FPS: People in the FPS camp believe that the enjoyment of individual players is paramount. The game wouldn't exist if players weren't having fun while playing. And the best way to accomplish that is to focus on the FPS aspects.

RTS: People in the RTS camp believe that, while the game is indeed an FPS, it should expand on its MMO aspect to provide a wide variety of tact and depth on a mass scale.

Which camp do you fall into, if any at all?

Note that these are not just extremes. Just asking that if you had to pick one or the other, which would you pick?

It's important to remember that both camps are right. While I personally believe that they should focus more on depth of tact, it is true that the game has to be fun for someone playing on the battlefield.

[alienmoose]

I want to hold your face down in a plate of spaghetti

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by alienmoose

I want to hold your face down in a plate of spaghetti

I second that emotion.

[Xaine]

Originally Posted by alienmoose

I want to hold your face down in a plate of spaghetti

Play nice kids.

[HitbackTR]

Originally Posted by alienmoose

I want to hold your face down in a plate of spaghetti

Only if we replace the spaghetti with venomous snakes and the sauce with violetzero's arterial blood.

[Mastachief]

Originally Posted by alienmoose

I want to hold your face down in a plate of spaghetti

^^ this

Violetzero, i encourage you to try Planetside first it will give you a better understand of what the veteran player have played and why we tend to think as we do.

Your poll option doesn't offer and option i would choose.

3rd option, MMO Persistant world FPS based on team work with tanks, planes and other such vehicles.

[NewSith]

...and so PSU started to turn into Official PlanetSide Forum...


Stop being dicks, gentlemen. I know it's all cool to be all high'n'mighty over the internet but I always liked this forum for being rather friendly and for constructive posts.

Hamma delete this thread please. Too much bile in one thread here.

EDIT Hell, people didn't even read the OP here...

[dai shan]

Originally Posted by NewSith

...and so PSU started to turn into Official PlanetSide Forum...


Stop being dicks, gentlemen.

qft

a lot of people not being reasonable at all here -- it's just a thread for discussion, for christs sake

[VioletZero]

By the way, although I personally fall into the RTS camp most of the time, there's no right answer here.

Neither of these are particularly "casual" or "hardcore." FPS camp players might want to make the gameplay more skill based so that when it comes down to 1 on 1 fights, the better player wins while an RTS camp player might say that it should come down to greater use of numbers.

[Xaine]

I see it like this.

If people wanted a standard FPS with Team Deathmatch, Search and Destroy and/or Conquest. They'd play Counter Strike, MW3 or Battlefield 3.

If people want a game like Planetside, then they'll play Planetside 2.

You're not going to be able to beat MW3/BF3 at their own game. By all means, give it all the nice FPS things that people love, but remember its Planetside 2 and not Call of Duty.

Tactics, thought and depth > Akimbo, Juggernauts and 14 year old children screaming down the comms.

[VioletZero]

Originally Posted by Xaine

I see it like this.

If people wanted a standard FPS with Team Deathmatch, Search and Destroy and/or Conquest. They'd play Counter Strike, MW3 or Battlefield 3.

If people want a game like Planetside, then they'll play Planetside 2.

You're not going to be able to beat MW3/BF3 at their own game. By all means, give it all the nice FPS things that people love, but remember its Planetside 2 and not Call of Duty.

Tactics, thought and depth > Akimbo, Juggernauts and 14 year old children screaming down the comms.

One could also argue that you're not going to beat Starcraft or any X4 title as an FPS so might as well focus on the FPS aspects.

[Xaine]

Originally Posted by VioletZero

One could also argue that you're not going to beat Starcraft or any X4 title as an FPS so might as well focus on the FPS aspects.

Yes, but if you focus on the FPS side of things. This will become more like CoD, Battlefield, Counter Strike etc etc.

If you focus on tactics and teamwork, it will become more like Planetside 1.

This is coming from someone who plays MW3 every night by the way. I like deathmatch FPS games, i just don't want Planetside to be one of them.

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by Xaine

I see it like this.

If people wanted a standard FPS with Team Deathmatch, Search and Destroy and/or Conquest. They'd play Counter Strike, MW3 or Battlefield 3.

If people want a game like Planetside, then they'll play Planetside 2.

You're not going to be able to beat MW3/BF3 at their own game. By all means, give it all the nice FPS things that people love, but remember its Planetside 2 and not Call of Duty.

Tactics, thought and depth > Akimbo, Juggernauts and 14 year old children screaming down the comms.

No, no, no.

FPS games like COD, BF, and Halo all have scripted events to make it seem like you are part of a larger epic battle. In Planetside, you actually ARE part of a larger epic battle. That's the draw.

The sheer scale of Planetside lends itself to certain RTS elements, but it is and always should be an FPS first. Not every FPS game is Team Deathmatch. Objective based matches are not too dissimilar from Planetside apart from the scale. K/D really only matters in Team Deathmatches.

[Xaine]

Originally Posted by Raymac

No, no, no.

FPS games like COD, BF, and Halo all have scripted events to make it seem like you are part of a larger epic battle. In Planetside, you actually ARE part of a larger epic battle. That's the draw.

The sheer scale of Planetside lends itself to certain RTS elements, but it is and always should be an FPS first. Not every FPS game is Team Deathmatch. Objective based matches are not too dissimilar from Planetside apart from the scale. K/D really only matters in Team Deathmatches.

When i say i prefer the RTS side of it, i mean the back-hacking, gen holding, gal dropping, LLU running, mod stealing, ghost hacking etc etc that set Planetside apart from other FPS games.

I love the FPS parts of Planetside, i really do. But when someone says 'FPS features' i instantly go to CoD, Battlefield etc. Which to me, is arena FPS with people jumping round corners spraying akimbo weapons, bunnyhopping around like idiots. I want to keep Planetside as FAR away from that as i possibly can.

[Ailos]

LOL WUT? RTS? Really?

I think I can understand where you would get the idea. I imagine the continental commander's map being very much like an RTS game in itself. But PlanetSide always has, always will, and always MUST BE an MMO FPS. Yeah, you may be managing your outfit and empire via an RTS-style interface, but at the end of the day, if you're going to want to get something done, you're going to have to get up off your ass and go shoot someone in the face. There can be no other way.