Active reload thoughts?

Elude · 2012-02-05, 06:03 PM

What's the communities thoughts on active reload, would you be against such an idea in Planetside 2?

For those who don't know, active reload was first featured in Gears of War (at least to my knowledge). It essentially works the same way as normal reloading in your typical FPS game but if you press the reload button again while reloading you have a chance of either jamming your weapon or doubling the reload speed, the goal was to time it with a meter displayed on your hud.

It may sound like a complicated process but it's not, it's actually a very simple concept and the best part is you don't even have to participate in doing it so long as you let your weapon reload all the way through without attempting such interruptions.

CidHighwind · 2012-02-05, 06:16 PM

As much I understand youre desire for such an option, I don't think it has any place in Planetside. Mostly because it would affect some empire more than others (See TR, who thrive on spray and pray). My vote is for no, until someone convinces me of something more than simply "its cool, so it should be in."

CutterJohn · 2012-02-06, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by CidHighwind

As much I understand youre desire for such an option, I don't think it has any place in Planetside. Mostly because it would affect some empire more than others (See TR, who thrive on spray and pray). My vote is for no, until someone convinces me of something more than simply "its cool, so it should be in."

Considering all the widely disparate things they have to balance, this seems like cake. Balance is in aggregate anyway... So long as the individual weapons are close, it doesn't matter terribly much. So TR benefit more from this. Well theres something the NC undoubtedly benefit more from, and something the VS benefit more from.

Originally Posted by Elude

I do agree that larger magazines or different magazines would be a much better idea for an attachment. But what if this were an implant instead, assuming they still have implants in PS2.

There can be more than one type of upgrade.

@Higby - In general while I feel the active reload is a tolerable minigame(I loathe minigames..), it still doesn't fill me with excitement. I wouldn't want it to be the sole functionality, but I'd be fine with it as an optional attachment. Some people might like it and make good use of it.

Elude · 2012-02-06, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by CutterJohn

There can be more than one type of upgrade.

Oh I know I was just disagreeing with myself in that as an attachment those would fit better than an active reload attachment. Which is why I think active reloading should not be an attachment if it were even considered in the game but rather as an implant.

Originally Posted by Vancha

When you say "this", do you mean magazines or active reload?

Magazine sizes and types (like two clips strapped onto each other side by side).

Vancha · 2012-02-06, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Elude

Magazine sizes and types (like two clips strapped onto each other side by side).

How would you explain them as implants? Implants typically involve something implanted into the soldier, so...

Also, if implants are as precious as they were in PS1, I think I'd rather something like ammo types were attachments.

Elude · 2012-02-06, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

How would you explain them as implants? Implants typically involve something implanted into the soldier, so...

Also, if implants are as precious as they were in PS1, I think I'd rather something like ammo types were attachments.

An active reload implant would give the player an active reload hud for it and it would allow the player to use it on any weapon he desires.

NewSith · 2012-02-05, 06:18 PM

Elaborating the concept above:

Gray square is where you need to hit reload again.

And no, I think having such metagame in planetside 2 is not a good idea. It promotes key macros.
EDIT: Sidenote - I am with Highwind on this, this metagame is great, it's just that the thing is not made for ps2.

Warborn · 2012-02-05, 06:20 PM

I've never really enjoyed the feature very much to be honest. I found it distracting and sort of annoying to deal with so often.

Bags · 2012-02-05, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Warborn

I've never really enjoyed the feature very much to be honest. I found it distracting and sort of annoying to deal with so often.

Agreed.

Espion · 2012-02-05, 06:29 PM

Carebear PvE function that has no place anywhere near PvP

Peacemaker · 2012-02-05, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Espion

Carebear PvE function that has no place anywhere near PvP

How is boosting reload speed a PVE function in a game that has no PVE? It also has a place in PVP thats why gears had it for use in multiplayer......

Higby's idea is the best implementation if it even goes in game. I see no reason not to add it, then again there isn't a huge reason to add it in the first place, a reload buff attachment is probably enough.

Elude · 2012-02-05, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by NewSith

It promotes key macros.

Good point never thought of that

Death2All · 2012-02-05, 06:41 PM

It's a neat function, but I don't think it really belongs in PS2.

I've always fount it distracting, and of course I can ignore it, but at the cost of reloading slower than my opponent probably will? Too good to pass up.

**Higby** · 2012-02-05, 07:53 PM

Here's an interesting question: what if active reload was a function on a weapon attachment? You could decide to use it, and doing so you'd give up another attachment, so its always balanced.

CidHighwind · 2012-02-05, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Higby

Here's an interesting question: what if active reload was a function on a weapon attachment? You could decide to use it, and doing so you'd give up another attachment, so its always balanced.

Hmm... I still feel as though it would give an unfair tilt towards TR, who could take further advantage of the option than the NC or VS. More bullets = more kills, especially with lower TTK in PS2. IMO, this is similar to the 'taped mags' mod found in CoD Black Ops, which turned into a must have mod in fire fights, (and might I also say that I DESPISE black ops, with this being one of the reasons, but enjoy CoD once in a while.) It would also depend on what mod is being replaced, and if the opportunity cost of trading that mod for this was significant.

In theory though, if the sacrifice made was great enough, I.E. the mod significantly hurt mobility or some other mechanic, or if the mod could only be installed on weapons with the same RoF, then I could see that as being a unique and interesting mechanic/choice.

Guess this is why you all make the big bucks

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