Kill cam.. again..

The Kush · 2012-05-12, 08:24 PM

I thought we were past all the kill cam bs.. apparently not because after reading the transcript of the interview with fpsguru, Higby mentions being able to see Everquest, free realms, planetside, ect stickers on the side of a vehicle in the kill cam if you run someone over.

First..

Please do not bring those games into PS2, I like the planetside 1 stuff but draw the line at that.

Second..

I thought the kill cam was removed, I don't need to get into details (plenty of threads for that) but the kill cam is an awful idea and I will not play the game if it is in.

Planetside vet since 2004 and I am not happy about that. I really hope it is misunderstanding.

EDIT: Some people seem to be confused, I am not opposed to a kill cam that shows a 3D model of who you were killed by. But the way the transcript was worded had me concerned about the kill cam being like it originally was in alpha and resembling a call of duty kill cam.

Stardouser · 2012-05-12, 08:27 PM

Supposedly the killcam is a 3D outline of the killer that does not actually show where they are. Unless the article says specifically otherwise, what you say is still possible without being a problem.

However, I stand with you in outright rejecting Robin Hood features like killcam and others.

The Kush · 2012-05-12, 08:28 PM

Yea star that's what I thought to, but the transcript hints otherwise.

"Tray: Yeah, we can talk about it. Alright. So, the plan is to take some of the old Planetside character skins and actually put them in Planetside 2 as an option to your character. So, if I'm a light assault, I will have the light armor from my Vanu clan or low poly and low texture, looking next to the high tech version of my light assault version in Planetside 2. And that will be one of the some of the things you can purchase for yourself to customize for your person. So, those are the types of things. So if you're talking about easter eggs, like throwbacks, those are the types of things we are talking about. We're also doing like, hood ornaments that you can put on your vehicle that will showcase games: Planetside, Free Realms, Everquest, Everquest 2. You know, little characters that you can put on your vehicle. When you somebody over, they'll see that in the kill cam."

Graywolves · 2012-05-12, 08:34 PM

It might just show the 3d model of the vehicle and the driver's stats.

Zulthus · 2012-05-12, 08:36 PM

Looks like immersion really isn't high on the list of importance here.

Also, I stand by having absolutely no kill cam.

NCLynx · 2012-05-12, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Graywolves

It might just show the 3d model of the vehicle and the driver's stats.

This.

Also this.

EDIT: Also I could have sworn they talked about allowing killcams to be turned off as well.

EDIT AGAIN: ^^^^^ Not in the FPSGuru interview of course but at some point

Lonehunter · 2012-05-12, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by NCLynx

I understand the concern, really I do. But "Kill cam" could mean so many different things, most people just jump to the conclusion that most infuriates them so they can complain.

It could mean a 1st person view of the person who killed you as they do so

It could be a 3rd person shot of the player who killed you

and there's so many variations for each one you can make some vastly different ideas. It could be as simple as a still image of the character who killed you and list some stats/weapons used etc., and that would still be referred to as a Kill Cam.

Plus I'll toss in the generic "wait till beta" The first gameplay demo we saw had a Kill Cam and Higby even said they thought about removing it because they knew it wasn't the final version. With a flip of the switch kill cams can be trashed. If in beta they have a severe negative effect, we'll try to remove them.

Aurmanite · 2012-05-12, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Kush

I will not play the game if it is in.

Awesome. It will be so much better for everyone if people who write posts like this stay away from the game.

The plan is to show the model of the character/vehicle that killed you and nothing else. How could you possibly be opposed to this implementation, being a vet since 2004, when Planetside itself had a kill cam.

You remember that Planetside had a killcam, right?

Stardouser · 2012-05-12, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

Awesome. It will be so much better for everyone if people who write posts like this stay away from the game.

The plan is to show the model of the character/vehicle that killed you and nothing else. How could you possibly be opposed to this implementation, being a vet since 2004, when Planetside itself had a kill cam.

You remember that Planetside had a killcam, right?

I think we need to create a different terminology for the killcam that only shows the model of your killer's character/vehicle. He was meaning killcam that shows where the killer is, so...what shall we call it? Outline cam?

The Kush · 2012-05-12, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stardouser

I think we need to create a different terminology for the killcam that only shows the model of your killer's character/vehicle. He was meaning killcam that shows where the killer is, so...what shall we call it? Outline cam?

Exactly star, thank you for clarifying. I agree

The Kush · 2012-05-12, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

Awesome. It will be so much better for everyone if people who write posts like this stay away from the game.

The plan is to show the model of the character/vehicle that killed you and nothing else. How could you possibly be opposed to this implementation, being a vet since 2004, when Planetside itself had a kill cam.

You remember that Planetside had a killcam, right?

I'm not opposed to the 3D model kill can being in I love that idea. I don't want a halo reach call of duty kill cam like the transcript makes it sound that is a horrible idea. Please read before posting.

NCLynx · 2012-05-12, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by The Kush

I'm not opposed to the 3D model kill can being in I love that idea. I don't want a halo reach call of duty kill cam like the transcript makes it sound that is a horrible idea. Please read before posting.

They're not going to clarify the kind of kill-cam every single time they mention the word. Even if it's a totally different interview. They've stated before 3D Outline, there was 0 reason to freak out.

The Kush · 2012-05-12, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by NCLynx

They're not going to clarify the kind of kill-cam every single time they mention the word. Even if it's a totally different interview. They've stated before 3D Outline, there was 0 reason to freak out.

Sorry to break it to ya champ but a 3D image of your killer after you die isn't a kill cam. A kill cam is exactly what it says. A camera showing the kill that killed you.

NCLynx · 2012-05-12, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by The Kush

Sorry to break it to ya champ but a 3D image of your killer after you die isn't a kill cam. A kill cam is exactly what it says. A camera showing the kill that killed you.

'Cause they totally can't use it in the general sense of the term.
(A screen that would in some shape or form show your killer, not necessarily following that of a CoD or BF killcam)

Also yes, showing a 3D image of the guy that just killed you and what he killed you with is indeed a form of a killcam.

EVILoHOMER · 2012-05-17, 11:46 AM

I want Kill cams in, they make death satisfying to know how I died.

In a game like Planetside they aren't going to reveal any positions away because you'll be moving constantly and if you do camp then you deserve to die. This will also hopefully mean that snipers have to keep moving and wont OP them too much but I can also see an ability to be able to disable people from seeing you on a kill cam.