Suicidal Maxes!?

ZeroOneZero · 2012-05-30, 07:56 AM

I can't recall which thread it was, but there was some talk that you could attach boomers to yourself or other players. Well..if that's the case; I can see players attaching boomers to maxes during a max crash. See where I'm going with this....Boomers have a pretty big AOE damage and a max can probably take one detonation (They might be able to take a lot more, seeing how they activate shields as well), but it'll definitely kill off any nearby enemy softies.

This wasn't a problem in PS1 though, but after seeing TB placing explosives on the mag(night fight video), it could possibly mean you can place some on ally or enemy troops.

But hopefully I'm just paranoid and wrong about the whole thing. Otherwise we're in for some explosive FUN! NOT!!!!

Dreamcast · 2012-05-30, 07:59 AM

It would be fun...I can imagine a max with the fast run rushing to some troops or tank to blow up.

I think boomers should be able to be attached to a friendly vehicle at least.

SKYeXile · 2012-05-30, 08:10 AM

boomer loaded ATV, just for lawls :O

Sledgecrushr · 2012-05-30, 09:00 AM

Would be fun unless you can detonate boomers with gunfire.

Fuse · 2012-05-30, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

Would be fun unless you can detonate boomers with gunfire.

I'd say this is required if we allow people to stick boomers on vehicles and players. If a MAX can charge at me covered in bombs I want to be able to shoot him and make the mess clear of my shiny armor.

Kipper · 2012-05-30, 09:22 AM

I say that if its anything like TV tells me C4 is:

After they cook it, burn it and drop heavy objects on it, they start shooting it and it still doesn't go off - it seems you need to actually detonate it properly with a blasting cap.

Sooo... I'd say, go for it, let people attach it to whatever they want, but make sure that it only goes off in response to being detonated remotely (or maybe another massive explosion - dunno if that would even work?).

That way, it should be less open to abuse, if you detonate it attached to a friendly, you at least do friendly fire damage if not get a TK. If the vehicle its on explodes and that causes a chain reaction, fair enough.

From some of the footage we've seen, 'blowing up' a vehicle isn't even a given, I'm pretty sure what I saw was tanks more realistically setting on fire and being knocked out, that violently exploding....? IMO, this is good - vehicles should only explode if the fuel tank or ammo goes.

Fuse · 2012-05-30, 09:24 AM

No, shooting C4 does not make it explode. My suggestion was not a move towards realism but adequate risk v reward in the game.

EDIT: Besides, if you've ever played a game like this you know it is a lot of fun trying to get him before he gets close. I don't know if a couple guys with carbines could down a MAX running at them full speed before it was too late, and that's no fun.

Sinx · 2012-05-30, 09:29 AM

Attaching boomers to maxes sounds like a fun idea to me.

Caveat - I'd like the max to die too and enable jammers to blow them up prematurely.

Kran De Loy · 2012-05-30, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kipper

From some of the footage we've seen, 'blowing up' a vehicle isn't even a given, I'm pretty sure what I saw was tanks more realistically setting on fire and being knocked out, that violently exploding....? IMO, this is good - vehicles should only explode if the fuel tank or ammo goes.

I would love that, it would make the times that a tank does go completely up that much more rewarding and fun.

Kipper · 2012-05-30, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Kran De Loy

I would love that, it would make the times that a tank does go completely up that much more rewarding and fun.

Me too, I hope that vehicles will be destroyed somewhat less violently, aircraft will be shot down and spit out of control toward the ground (at this point you can bail, if you're too low, tough!) ... this is what should happen most of the time.

And as you say, if you hit it in the sweet spot with something very explosive, THEN you get a big boom.

ZeroOneZero · 2012-05-30, 09:47 AM

You're forgetting one thing guys, if I'm not mistaken, pretty much all maxes have access to shields. NC max running towards you with explosives and a shield on, good luck trying to take him out.

Fuse · 2012-05-30, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by ZeroOneZero

You're forgetting one thing guys, if I'm not mistaken, pretty much all maxes have access to shields. NC max running towards you with explosives and a shield on, good luck trying to take him out.

Very good point. I'm even more concerned now, thanks.

laelgon · 2012-05-30, 10:23 AM

The only thing I can imagine people being allowed to attach explosives to is vehicles they spawned. Otherwise you open the door for tons of potential griefing. The suicidal MAX thing could be fun if the people involved are in agreement, but think how quickly people are going to get fed up with having some asshole strap explosives to their max/vehicle and blowing them up for kills.

Xyntech · 2012-05-30, 10:20 AM

An easy solution would be to just disallow attaching C4 to friendly units.

I for one welcome our new jihadi overlords.

ZeroOneZero · 2012-05-30, 10:36 AM

Might as well start a outfit called the "Angry Infidels".
Main purpose of outfit: Makes things go BOOM!
Life expectancy: Not long.