VAC secured gaming.

Jinxsey · 2012-06-19, 08:20 PM

It's not perfect, but it's alot better than Punkbuster.

This thread is intended to guage the interest in the community in seeing an alternative to punkbuster used. I know there are alot of people who can't play PB games due to the "packet loss" problem, and I know there are people like me who never have problems. I want to play with my friends and some of them have trouble with PB that evenblanance are unable to resolve.

Valve anti-cheat seems like a better option.

/sign.

Meriv · 2012-06-19, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jinxsey

It's not perfect, but it's alot better than Punkbuster.

This thread is intended to guage the interest in the community in seeing an alternative to punkbuster used. I know there are alot of people who can't play PB games due to the "packet loss" problem, and I know there are people like me who never have problems. I want to play with my friends and some of them have trouble with PB that evenblanance are unable to resolve.

Valve anti-cheat seems like a better option.

/sign.

I am one of these i had to stop to play battlefield heroes. Soo it is an amazing news

if it becomes reality

willaguy · 2012-06-19, 08:34 PM

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NCLynx · 2012-06-19, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by willaguy

The devs already stated there will be no anti-cheat system, however there will be 24/7 support from live admins on the server.

Except they confirmed Punkbuster. That's ***supposed*** to be an anti-cheat system although it doesn't work to well. Regardless of how it works, it's what they're using along with 24/7 admins.

WNxThentar · 2012-06-20, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by willaguy

The devs already stated there will be no anti-cheat system, however there will be 24/7 support from live admins on the server.

Actually they said they have their own systems in place and it will be backed up by a 24/7 team with additional tools to track down and proactively deal with cheaters.

Inverness · 2012-06-20, 02:01 AM

Yes, I do support the VAC model since it relies on detecting known cheats and doesn't fuck your system up like PB.

ChipMHazard · 2012-06-20, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by WNxThentar

Actually they said they have their own systems in place and it will be backed up by a 24/7 team with additional tools to track down and proactively deal with cheaters.

Indeed. I don't particularly like VAC or Punkbuster, both of them have irritated me a great deal in the past.
Also since PS2 won't be running through Steam it [VAC] won't be an option.

Trafalgar · 2012-06-20, 08:08 AM

VAC only protects well if it's implemented well in the game its being used in. It's not a magic bullet. If they don't bother (Brink), it won't work well.

Also, as for the bans, it doesn't ban immediately because it does delayed VAC bans to ban from playing the game multiplayer at all, and the point of the delay is so that the cheaters might not be able to figure out what it was specifically that tipped off VAC.

Nasher · 2012-06-20, 09:10 AM

The thing about VAC is valve control it directly, so they are always on top of it. Also they have the power to ban you from playing ANY VAC games so it's a good deterant.

Punkbuster never really seemed to work that well and it relies on a system service which crashes sometimes. I can't think of a single PB game where cheating wasn't a problem either, because if it detects a cheat it merely disconnects you and no ban (probably because it likes to randomly kick people for no reason) :/

indirect · 2012-06-19, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by DjEclipse

No anti-cheat system on an online game = wearing no condom fucking Snooki.

Bad idea.

I'd rather have no anti-cheat system than have punkbuster. Punkbuster RUINS games, it doesn't help them.

SEE: BC2, All-Points Bulletin, etc.

DoctorIsIn · 2012-06-19, 08:50 PM

PunkBuster? Sounds familiar. Oh yeah, that's that process I terminate every time I start up my computer, except on select occasions.
Edit: On topic: VAC would be a good alternative. I've never had any problems with it.

SKYeXile · 2012-06-19, 08:36 PM

There willbe no anti cheat system...? You got a quote on that?

But yea vac >>>>>>> pb.

Coreldan · 2012-06-20, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

There willbe no anti cheat system...? You got a quote on that?

But yea vac >>>>>>> pb.

VAC isnt much better than PB. Both are bypassable, games using either still have cheaters in them, even games that use both at the same time

The only thing that VAC really has over PB is that VAC is a little more user friendly, as PB every now and then likes to kick people out for no reason, but usualyl fixed with a manual update.

I don't mind VAC, but I personally think it's bullshit saying it's actually any better.

SKYeXile · 2012-06-20, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Coreldan

VAC isnt much better than PB. Both are bypassable, games using either still have cheaters in them, even games that use both at the same time

The only thing that VAC really has over PB is that VAC is a little more user friendly, as PB every now and then likes to kick people out for no reason, but usualyl fixed with a manual update.

I don't mind VAC, but I personally think it's bullshit saying it's actually any better.

i care a little about the protection is provides, i just care about how much it fucks me. iv been fucked by punkbuster, alot.

MrSmegz · 2012-06-19, 09:07 PM

First off they need to have enough GM's in game. In WoW you can go down to Uldman and just watch bot after bot fly by and hit all the mining and herb nodes, its so blatantly obvious and the fact that nobody does anything about it is disgusting. Second if they have enough GM's, they need to have proper tools that Flag players as questionable, by looking at K/D ratio, Average shot distance, accuracy, etc. Finally the GM's need to have the teeth to do something about these cheaters when they are caught. This will be by far better than PB, and hope they can implement something like it.