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Old 2012-06-19, 11:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Is anyone still skeptical of the f2p model that Ps2 is going with and their ability to keep the promise of no pay to win creeping in?

Reason i ask, everyone does realize that the Smed is still at SoE right?

The one that has destroyed good titles in the past in the name of a quick buck...
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Old 2012-06-19, 11:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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there no reason it cant stay F2P and balanced. However, some people do have abstract opinions of p2w and whats balanced.
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Old 2012-06-19, 11:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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No, I'm not skeptical of the F2P model they're going with.

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Old 2012-06-20, 12:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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I'm skeptical, yes.

Though it is only very minor there are a couple things that seem to be heading in the pay2win direction. Environmental camo can give an advantage in that regard to players, as well as resource boosters will be able to use vehicles two times as often as regular players(with a 200% boost).

The second isn't as minor, but it can easily be fixed with proper cooldowns.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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There is always a danger of a good model slowly being corrupted by unfair paid products. The need for a company to make money will have to balanced with what the community will tolerate. Hopefully we as a community will make an uproar whenever something seems broken, and hopefully SOE as a company will continue to respect our opinions. The development team has been extremely good in this regard, but as for the future, only vigilance and tenacity will guarantee that this game remains f2p and not p2w.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:19 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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I've been skeptical from the start, and i remain skeptical.

What i am counting on, is that it will not be blatent and still be somewhat balanced. My hope is that the game will reach a critical mass of players quick enough with this sort of hide and seek "buying power", that SOE won't be forced to take drastic measures and release content with obvious advantages.

The PS2 Fanboize will play a large part in shooting down "THAT SHIT YOU CAN BUY IN THE CASH SHOP IS FUCKEN OP" threads before they get out of control. I still think a certain level of Pay-2-Win is inevitable, for the main reason that the term can be fairly subjective.

Also: SOE will have to control their greed... Cause if they release any pay to win weapons, they will fricken sell like hotcakes! Simple as that!
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Lots of topics about this. Please use the search. But to answer your question yes there is a lot of concern but a of now we can only hope they stay true to their word that you will never be able to pay for power.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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F2P is here to stay and a very good business model for a persistent game. League is very successful and has a ton of fans because of the low barrier of entry. If SOE can continue to support the game with content that players feel is worth a couple bucks then the game will be fantastic. Low barrier of entry, highlights that will make people want to play, and a deep tactical battlefield is all fantastic goals for a game on the pc.

Best decision SOE made on Planetside 2 in my opinion, brings interest and excitement that everyone can celebrate.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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I am definitely going to be a fanboi. I've never really cared what my char looked liked ingame, but I will be pumping out the cash to help this thing thrive.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Horrid View Post
Is anyone still skeptical of the f2p model that Ps2 is going with and their ability to keep the promise of no pay to win creeping in?

Reason i ask, everyone does realize that the Smed is still at SoE right?

The one that has destroyed good titles in the past in the name of a quick buck...
Well think of it this way. If he does mess it up you won't have paid anything for it so no big deal.

I honestly don't think this type of criticism is good at this point. While you and I might not like some of what his team have done it the past others have.

There are solid reasons for not letting pay to win models in and he recognises this. I think the proof that people will pay to get purely cosmetic changes is a proven model.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Glad we are getting a thread about this per day.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Originally Posted by Bags View Post
Glad we are getting a thread about this per day.
I feel so good when a noob comes along and does not at least look at the forums before posting as well haha.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Most are skeptical. Once we start dabbling with the beta and get closer to launch, we'll have a better idea on how the micro-transactions will effect PS2.

Right now we can just hope for the best.
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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They said it over and over ITS NOT PAY TO WIN!! It will be fine
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Old 2012-06-20, 12:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Me too actually, need to keep it at the forefront imho....in my humble opinion the "pay to win creep" could very well be the downfall of ps2. I hope it doesnt loving what i see....thus far...but lets not be naive about f2p models and most certainly not be naive about SoE and some who work there.
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