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Old 2012-06-27, 05:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Anyone else feel night isn't dark enough?


So I was watching TB's night time video on night ops, and while the lighting is impressive, I feel like it could be ramped up just a little bit. Take a look at these screens.


The ambient and direct lighting coming from the base superstructure is very impressive, however in the room where the player is standing there is still quite a bit of visibility despite no direct light source around. It's one thing to see out into a lit area, it's another to have an unlit area be completely visible.


This screen shows the effect that PS2 uses to simulate darkness, in that it has a very hazy blue filter that is meant to obscure draw distances rather than act as true darkness. It's a nice effect, but at the end of the day we can still see everyone plain as day from huge distances despite it being "night time". Flash lights and IR optics aren't really necessary when you can spot out every cactus in the desert from a 50m tower.


In this screen, you can see the sky isn't black like a night normally is, but rather a very light dusky blue. Again, not much is hidden in the darkness, as there isn't really any darkness to begin with.

Now, the next screen is what I really want night to look like. It's black. It has high contrast. It has shadows in alleys that aren't in direct lighting. You need all the flash lights and night optics you can get because...well...it's actually dark.


Now, I'm not sure if the devs could actually change the lighting, as that is a huge part of the game, but am I the only one who really doesn't think the night is actually dark?
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Old 2012-06-27, 05:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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tbs night ops vid is in the open with a full moon, watch the e3 streams and see how dark it gets when inside teh base with the walls blocking the moons.
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Old 2012-06-27, 05:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Re: Anyone else feel night isn't dark enough?


Be careful what you wish for.

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5674

Edit: Also this --> http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=13467

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Old 2012-06-28, 07:22 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally Posted by Luieburger View Post
Yes because in Planetside 2 you are a lone survivor in the wildness. There are absolutely no tracer fire from 2000 ppl no giant facilities that emit lights and no vehicles and spaceships......
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Old 2012-06-28, 07:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally Posted by vasito View Post
Yes because in Planetside 2 you are a lone survivor in the wildness. There are absolutely no tracer fire from 2000 ppl no giant facilities that emit lights and no vehicles and spaceships......
Sounds like my kind of game!
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Old 2012-06-27, 05:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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It's pretty dark in some of the E3 videos
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Old 2012-06-27, 05:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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I'll have an opinion on that when i'm in beta (hopefully).


With this i definitely agree:
Originally Posted by The Kush View Post
I would like having to rely on night vision and flashlights
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Old 2012-06-27, 05:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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It could always get darker. I would like having to reply on night vision and flashlights
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Old 2012-06-27, 08:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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It could always get darker. I would like having to reply on night vision and flashlights
This. Put my vote in for a dayZ style dark night.
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Old 2012-06-27, 05:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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lol, when I saw this thread title I immediately thought of DayZ as well.

Night time can indeed be overdone.

Edit: I have played this game at night time. It's fun for maybe 5 seconds then ceases to be fun. I only play at daytime now.


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Old 2012-06-27, 07:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Re: Anyone else feel night isn't dark enough?


Originally Posted by QuantumMechanic View Post
lol, when I saw this thread title I immediately thought of DayZ as well.

Nit time can indeed be overdone.

Edit: I have played this game at night time. It's fun for maybe 5 seconds then ceases to be fun. I only play at daytime now.
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I love the DayZ night. If the people in that video all had vehicles with headlights, flashlights on their weapons, flares and NV gear it wouldn't be a problem. The night would still be lit up with player-made light and tracer fire. That DayZ video is how I wish the darkest nights would be, but only very few night cycles should be this dark.

The videos I saw of PS2 were too bright, but bearable if that was the brightest it gets every few cycles. Right now I just hope they let us turn off the headlights on vehicles. The illumination they provide is worthless and they just provide big targets for the enemy to shoot at.


edit: The E3 video for Day 3 linked above with TotalBiscuit looks pretty good. I still think that headlights are good for nothing other than giving away your position though.

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Old 2012-06-27, 05:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Re: Anyone else feel night isn't dark enough?


Night time is plenty dark
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Old 2012-06-27, 05:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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i agree in the e3 videos it got plenty dark
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Old 2012-06-27, 05:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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If it gets darken then it means you HAVE to have NV scopes, which are unlocked at later in character development. So basically it creates a situation where Older players have a huge advantage over someone who just hopped in. It has been stated many times it will never happen.

Plus that picture of they city (rl) it taken probably a half mile away where as the other in game are fractions of that. Also eye adjust to light, cameras do... but not as well, the list goes on. So i wouldnt hold that comparison too much to heart.
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Old 2012-06-27, 06:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Re: Anyone else feel night isn't dark enough?


From the videos I have seen, night can get pretty dark in the shadows. If you have a sky with 2 moons that are full... a planet on top of that.. with stars all over you will get a lot of ambient light reflecting off every surface in the area.

The reason that city scape you posted looked so dark(besides camera settings) was because of the light pollution. Things around you can seem darker because your eyes have adjusted to the light in front of you.

From what I have seen, the light/dark in this game is nearly the best I have ever seen. In the videos you can see how if you are sitting in a bright area and your enemy is sitting in the shadows.. they have a solid advantage over you (Other than that darn name plate).

Im sure it could be a little darker for "realism" sake, but that would not be fun. Any modern force would just pop on some NV and get to the fighting. This way we can play without making everything have a green tone :-p
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