I really wish

Beerwig · 2012-08-02, 10:17 AM

that this game was pay to play.The f2p model just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.The main reason for this is that every f2p game I have ever played was full of hackers.Another concern is that they will start selling power.I know they said that its cosmetic only,but what if they don't hit their money target?What if they start selling power crystals that boost damage by 75%?It's just that this game seems to be turning into the game that I have always wanted.I can't think of anything the devs are doing that I would do differently.
Most games today are getting smaller and dumber(Bf3),but this game is moving forward;an epic fps experience that won't get old for years and years.
Hopefully the devs don't cave in to greedy suits.

braydog · 2012-08-02, 10:22 AM

The concerns you express are the exact same concerns the devs have expressed. (That just shows how in tune with the community they are.) I hope their greedy suits are locked away in their closets too.

I'm sure we'll be ok, though. I don't think they'll ever have a buy power option.
*fingers crossed

Firearms · 2012-08-02, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Beerwig

The main reason for this is that every f2p game I have ever played was full of hackers.

Any game you have ever played is full of hackers

Which part of the pay system do you think prevented that....?

Valkan · 2012-08-02, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Firearms

Which part of the pay system do you think prevented that....?

I guess the part where a hacker gets banned and loses 50 bucks and the ongoing subscription fee.

Worst : the average gamer ends up thinking all the others are hacking : "there are lots of hackers on F2P games, therefore the guy that just shot me was one of them because ... well ... I'm unbeatable by normal means".

So you're either rage quiting being convinced that this game is full of cheats or rage quiting because you are constantly insulted and accused of hacking.

Death2All · 2012-08-02, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Valkan

So you're either rage quiting being convinced that this game is full of cheats or rage quiting because you are constantly insulted and accused of hacking.

If you rage quit a game because someone is accusing you of hacking after you owned them, then you're playing games for the wrong reason.

Firearms · 2012-08-02, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Valkan

I guess the part where a hacker gets banned and loses 50 bucks and the ongoing subscription fee..

And that too happens everyday. If you're concerned that the F2P nature of the game will encourage your average Joe to hack then that may be legitimate concern but equally you're dismissing SOE's strategy - Whatever that is....

OMG F2P meenz h4x0rz fTw is as old as it ever was tho....

Rivenshield · 2012-08-02, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Valkan

I guess the part where a hacker gets banned and loses 50 bucks

They can't lose the fifty bucks if Sony doesn't charge for the client. Which they need to do, IMHO. It'll harden the target.

Katanauk · 2012-08-02, 10:58 AM

Planetside had a few hackers

Then the reserves initiative was introduced . . . woah.

So yeah, I definitely understand that, but devs have already said they were undermanned, now they are not. I trust them.

I'll buy a few cosmetics, if just to support the idea that things for sale should not make you win!

MCYRook · 2012-08-03, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by Katanauk

Planetside had a few hackers

Then the reserves initiative was introduced . . . woah.

The worst hacking in PS1 (pull hack, cheaters eradicating dozens of players within seconds etc.) happened long after Reserves.

Pay2Play or not, the game NEEDS both a half-working anticheat system and good GM coverage to combat that shit.

Sturmhardt · 2012-08-02, 11:12 AM

And I wish that black was pink... And now?

Gugabalog · 2012-08-02, 11:39 AM

P2P won't happen. It's been repeatedly emphasized. Sorry.

Brusi · 2012-08-02, 11:45 AM

I really wish my car would start in the mornings... Why the fuck does it have to be so cold!

Beerwig · 2012-08-02, 12:31 PM

One of the f2p games, I think it was called Crossfire,had more hackers than I have ever seen in one match.I honestly don't see many hackers at all in Bf3.Anyway,Im still really stoked for PS2,and I hope they are super succesful.

OnexBigxHebrew · 2012-08-02, 12:48 PM

They wouldn't have gotten a green light to make PS2 without F2P. Period.

Crator · 2012-08-02, 12:56 PM

If the F2P business model flops then it flops. Then they'll have to change it. Wait and see situation here. IMO, I think the F2P model will be wildly successful as long as they can control hackers.