Magrider Anaylisis/ NC weakness

[Peacemaker]

Me and a friend got into a major argument about this. It started with talking about the Magrider and its opposition. Then after looking at what we talked about we found out that after we made the stats for all the tanks the NC has almost no weakness in our minds. It almost always falls into the middle of the three empires. The Vanu and the TR cancel each other out and seem to be a good match.

1.What do you think the Armour is? I cant see something light enough to fly taking more than two or three hits from say a Vangaurd (WOOOT DIE Vanu, TR you can live b/c you have been misled during your entire life and thus your vision has been skewed of right and wrong...) (TR havethe most armour, NC are in the middle and Vanu are tagging along in the rear)
2.I think that it may have the best accuracy of any of the tanks of the game (TR has worst, NC in the mid again!)
3. its reload speed is low (Ill bet my socks that NC have the slowest reload and the vanu come in second in this catagory and then TR).
4.The Shells probly have Med. hitting potental (THis is based on the TR throw out insane amounts of fire but each individual bullet is weak and the NC well the NC have a 150mm cannon).
5.It will most likly be the fastest medium moving tank in the game and the most manuverable (NC coming in 2nd for both and TR falling behind in 3rd)

After looking at this It appears that the TR and the Vanu will be a good match for each other but the NC may (other than ROF) have NO distinct disadvantages (Altho they may have the worst accuracy based on they use shotguns, but when i think High rof i think inaccurate). They almost always land in the middle. I love my NC comrads but i wanna know what to compare to. What do u guys think? It wouldnt be balanced if NC were mid RoF, Accuracy armour, speed, manuvarbility and top in damage. Or not that fair even if the accuracy was the worst which is basicaly a coin toss untill open beta.

[SandTrout]

We dont know how the tanks will hold up against each other until the game is released. there will surely be tactics and stragtegies that were not considered during beta, and there is no telling who will have the advantage with their tank.

The NC could have the advantage because they only need to take a few picked shots, VS might have the advantage because of mobility and avoiding shots, while the terrans' heaviest armor and RoF could prove more usefull. We dont know, and the guys in beta can't say.

[�io]

Short answer:

We have no clue, few of us have played the game.


Long answer:

See short answer.

[Peacemaker]

Well im just speculating here so cut me some slack guys

Ah this is just a guess guys all i want is some input.




BTW Dio I am your father. I will kill you on the battlefield!

Thats the end of that chapter...




So many kewl smileys

[Ginzue]

I think the Vanguard is actually to weak compared to the Prowler in all aspects, and well... The Magrider just sucks.

[Irnbru]

you really shouldnt be putting that in Dio's mouth!!!

[Peacemaker]

Ginzue how does the Vangaurd suck compaired to the prowler. Think about it man, prowler is slower and less manuverable and its guns have less punch and may be less accurate. But it does have highest RoF and Armour. It would probly tie. Magrider oh god against the prowler it would be funny just throw up a wall of lead, against the Vangaurd 2 well placed shots will bring it down (no problem with a skilled gunner) Vangaurd needs at least 2 tanks to stand a chance against a single TR or NC MBT

[Irnbru]

according to new vehicle listing, prowler is more maneoverable than vanguard

[Ginzue]

My point exactly ^^^

[Peacemaker]

??? U smoking crack? when is poor better than average?

Prowler
Source: Terran Republic
Type: Medium Tank
Role: Attack
Primary Weapon: 100mm Cannon
Secondary Weapon: 12mm Rotary Chaingun
Occupants: 3 (Driver, Gunners)
Handling: Poor



Vanguard
Source: New Conglomerate
Type: Medium Tank
Role: Attack
Primary Weapon: 150mm Cannon
Secondary Weapon: 20mm Recoilless Cannon
Occupants: 2 (Driver, Gunner)

BTW
Handling: Average

Magrider
Source: Vanu Sovereignty
Type: Medium Tank
Role: Attack
Primary Weapon: Heavy Rail Beam
Secondary Weapon: Light Pulsed Particle Accelerator
Occupants: 2 (Driver, Gunners)
Handling: Good

btw ginzue when u said my point exactly who were u talking to?

[Ginzue]

Join the TR vanguard lover, you know its better...

[firecrackerNC]

Uh where did you see that,Vanguard has average handleing,Prowler=poor and slowest

[Peacemaker]

I jsut posted the stats of the three tanks. It says right there that the Prowler has poor handeling while the Vangaurd has average. BTW usally when u have a big heavily armoured tank its slow for balance issues (thats just logic at work it may be faster)


Oh yea um NC i love, TR i like, Vanu I hate. I have no intrest in the vanu but i plan on playing as NC on one server and TR on another. (I really wanna have some fun with the MAX units they have. (Flak vs infantry = splat splat splat)

[MrVulcan]

Irnbru, please read more carefully, your facts are wrong. From the best of our info (and the new vehicle info) we can see that:

Vangaurd = extreme firepower, med speed/maneuverability, high armor
Prowler = high firepower, low speed/maneuverability, extreme armor
Magrider = med firepower, high speed/maneuverability, med armor

P.S.
also keep this in mind:

Most people think that 2 100mm weapons will do more dmg than a 150mm one, this is not true, the power of a weapon increases exponentially as the size increases.

IE: look at this data about the two ammo types:

.32 Winchester:
Penetration (10% gel.): 6.5"

Vs.

.41 Winchester:
Penetration (10% gel.): 17.5"

that is about a 24% difference in size, and the penetration is 2.69 times higher. so by increasing the size 24% you get 269% increase in power. (and the diff from a 100 to 150 is a 50% increase)

[Peacemaker]

woot a believer. Thank you mr vulcan you are a True NC. To evaluate on what u said im just gonna switch ur stats around a bit so they compair to the three tanks.

Vangaurd = Highest firepower, middle speed/maneuverability, middle armor, accuracy unknown, rof unknown
Prowler = lowest firepower, lowest speed/maneuverability, highest armour, Accuracy unknown, RoF highest
Magrider = lowest firepower, highest speed/maneuverability, lowest armour, accuracy unknown, RoF unknown

The accuracy may be the middle on the vangaurd b/c of low rof but may be lowest b/c of other NC weps (Shotguns), the ROF may be the least to even out its punch or it may be the middle to even out accuracy,

The Prowler probly has the worst accuracy when i think Machineguns i think inaccurate (Think about the miniguns in game) Firepower is logical b/c when u fire alot of ammo in most games it evens it out with a low punch.


Magrider i think may be the most accurate to even out the armour and have the lowest rof to keep the accuracy from being spamed.

PS just saw your addon vulcan. Very good info there. Way to back ur self up. I didnt expect anyone around here to be a balistics expert. Ill have to consult you if i ever need help