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Old 2013-02-27, 11:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Account Wide Unlocks in Next GU




We knew this was in the roadmap but this is the first confirmation.
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Old 2013-02-27, 11:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Aw, yeah!
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Old 2013-02-27, 11:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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YAY!
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Old 2013-02-27, 11:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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I don't think I've seen an explanation of how exactly this is supposed to work - any thoughts?
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Old 2013-02-27, 11:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally Posted by maradine View Post
I don't think I've seen an explanation of how exactly this is supposed to work - any thoughts?
Thus far:
"We would like items purchased with Station Cash to be unlocked across all characters on the account that can utilize them. This change would be retroactive to prior purchases."


http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/i...unlocks.82715/
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Old 2013-02-27, 11:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Right, but I mean, like - class of item? If I have a Nemesis on my main, would a TR alt get a Grounder? Does it apply to certs? The exact same certs? Etc, etc.
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Old 2013-02-27, 12:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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TBH, it's the gifting items that would seem to be the most beneficial.

I don't really see myself utilizing the account wide unlocks since I'm primarily going to be focused on my main character most of the time anyways. After all, there's really only going to be one main focus/progression on your way up to all 100 BRs, and the accumulated certs that character will have earned, plus the progression towards all their Auraxium medals. Not to mention the ties/binds you'll have created between your Outfit/Outfit mates for that character.

I don't see how it's going to work anyways between characters/weapons of a different faction? Would you receive the opposing factions weapons of an equal "class" that you've already purchased on another character?

As an NC I purposefully bought some weapons that had a faster firing rate so that I could have the option of choosing between either my default slower/powerful weapons or a faster/weaker weapon. If the faster firing weapons I purchased translated over to a TR character then that would be useless because I'd already have access to all their faster firing weapons anyways.

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Old 2013-02-27, 12:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Who would make another toon on the same faction, other than on another server?

That makes no sense. What you propose as the outcome can not be justified to me, they will loose a customer.
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Old 2013-02-27, 12:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Who would make another toon on the same faction, other than on another server?

That makes no sense. What you propose as the outcome can not be justified to me, they will loose a customer.
They have to have some kind of restrictions. They are in this to make money after all. While the Jackhammer, Lasher and Chaingun are all the special HA weapons for their factions.. none of them are remotely similar. I honestly don't expect to be able to buy a Lasher for my VS (which I have) and then be able to use the Chaingun on my TR (I haven't bought yet). When you buy a faction specific weapon you are buying that particular weapon.. not all weapons in that class type that could remotely be associated. Just because a set of weapons were released at the same doesn't make them mirrors of each other.

From a money standpoint it doesn't make business sense to loose out on all that potential money when they already will make all common pool items account wide for all characters.

If I'm wrong then I would be happy, but I am not getting my hopes up. Would be nice if I was wrong.
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Old 2013-02-27, 12:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Dragonskin View Post
They have to have some kind of restrictions. They are in this to make money after all. While the Jackhammer, Lasher and Chaingun are all the special HA weapons for their factions.. none of them are remotely similar.
They cost the same. In game faction differences should not be part of the equation. They are all HA guns, they are equivalent, each faction has one. A dollar is a dollar.

Again, for me, this is a barrier to spend any money on anything if I ever decide to try another faction. The money, time and or cert ( Time ) barrier is prohibitive.

And again, we are not talking about items that have side grades.


We need clarification.

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Old 2013-02-27, 12:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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They cost the same.
And that means what? How is that relevant to the arguement? Most good weapons in the game are 700 SC. So you spent 700 SC and now you have access to all weapons that cost 700 SC?
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Old 2013-02-27, 12:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I'm not against your idea really, I just don't think it will happen that way. That sounds too good to be true. I am purposely not buying items that might be account wide like that for a reason. In case I am wrong I don't have to worry about anything.
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Old 2013-02-27, 12:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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And that means what? How is that relevant to the arguement? Most good weapons in the game are 700 SC. So you spent 700 SC and now you have access to all weapons that cost 700 SC?
It means that that's the only thing that matters when you are talking money.

If I buy a grounder, it should be account wide. Not gated by faction for arbitrary reasons. "Because faction" does not carry water. This is especialy true for like items that are faction specific. A 400$ TV is a TV, no matter its color.

I have also avoided buying like items that are factional for this reason, there is no value in it, its not where my time investment is.

If they choose to go "Because faction" they have lost sales on other items.

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Old 2013-02-28, 02:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by MrBloodworth View Post
Who would make another toon on the same faction, other than on another server?

That makes no sense. What you propose as the outcome can not be justified to me, they will loose a customer.
I have a 2nd TR on the same server, hes a cert farmer that I can use to try out attachments or abilities without wasting certs on my main. Thats a good reason why someone would make a 2nd toon as same faction.
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Old 2013-02-27, 12:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Correct me if I am wrong, but there are only one type of Faction Specific weapons, and they all have equivalents in other factions.

There is no Jackhammer and a Sidegrade jackhammer. This goes for Secondary tanks guns and Maxes.
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