Is the AMS is killing the game?

Ghost Runner · 2013-05-22, 12:32 AM

I for one feel there is just to many options to join a fight and I believe the core issue might be the AMS it has no down side no limits! The AMS makes logistics irrelevant in a battle, I died no penalty just find the nearest AMS or spawn beacon and hop right back in no need to find a transport. Why even have transports in a game were you can teleport any ware? AMS lets you reappear over and over again.

Hell libs\esfs\tank\snipers wont even shoot the AMS because it becomes a farm and they know it so those being farmed say put a cloak on it. Really? (So as a lib gunner I would just look for the blank spot spitting out troops and farm there instead wont help.)

The answer is simple Remove the AMS from the game and logistics of troop movement becomes paramount to success or failure of assaults. Now If the AMS is indeed deemed to be needed to take a base it should have a spawn limit (maybe 50) until it is out of nanites or some thing.

But still thinking best solution is to kill the AMS to make the logistics of troops more important. I know the wine "but every thing takes to long to get to!" Really it takes what 2-5 minutes to go from 1 base to another on foot cut that time in half when using a flash or harasser?

So am I nuts or dose it seem the battlefield is to accessible?

Would removing the AMS help?

Or limiting the AMS a better option?

Chewy · 2013-05-22, 12:39 AM

Hell no.

Make the AMS its own vehicle and turn the sunderer into an APC. Can believe Im going to say it and Hamma is going to hate this but the devs should just put back wha..................(user inactive, shutting down)

camycamera · 2013-05-22, 12:40 AM

fuck no, it isn't ruining the game at all. the original had it as well.

and if you look at Battlefield, that game has a hell load more options, and i actually think that it needs MORE spawn points.

Rolfski · 2013-05-22, 12:42 AM

You're nuts. Removing mechanisms that quickly brings you back into the fight would make the game unnecessarily boring and frustrating.

You already die insanely fast and often in this game, rewarding this every time with boring extra travel downtime is a sure recipe for rage quitting.

Varsam · 2013-05-22, 12:55 AM

They need to remove the -5 second bonus to spawn time from the sundy, because it automatically puts attackers at a natural advantage to the defenders unless the defenders pull a sundy themselves. It completely trivializes base spawning. If anything, it should be reversed, because you can literally park a sundy closer to most objectives than a spawn room, directly contradicting the "travel time" logic of the bonus in the first place.

Ghost Runner · 2013-05-22, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Varsam

They need to remove the -5 second bonus to spawn time from the sundy, because it automatically puts attackers at a natural advantage to the defenders unless the defenders pull a sundy themselves. It completely trivializes base spawning. If anything, it should be reversed, because you can literally park a sundy closer to most objectives than a spawn room, directly contradicting the "travel time" logic of the bonus in the first place.

Hey a constructive answer I agree completely.

Lonehunter · 2013-05-22, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Varsam

They need to remove the -5 second bonus to spawn time from the sundy, because it automatically puts attackers at a natural advantage to the defenders unless the defenders pull a sundy themselves. It completely trivializes base spawning. If anything, it should be reversed, because you can literally park a sundy closer to most objectives than a spawn room, directly contradicting the "travel time" logic of the bonus in the first place.

Anything with a spawn point other then a Sunderer, is a building, with energy windows, probably walls, and other buildings, and a cap point. You don't think THAT is a defensive advantage to offset the quick Sundy respawn? Defenders should be killing attackers at a higher rate, if not they are failing.

No, the AMS shouldn't be removed. It's the ONLY tool we have that resembles player generated content. By us choosing where to deploy this mobile spawn/defend/attack station we form tactics, and have to make choices.

Bases/outposts being the only spawn means there is no forward operating base for infantry. So they're either running on foot and coming in the same general direction with no variety in battles, or ALL coming in vehicles just so they can ditch them to play infantry combat. Then you have disposable vehicles, so now there's a resource and time cost just to get back in the fight, it all just sounds like a horrible design choice.

Carver · 2013-05-22, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by Varsam

They need to remove the -5 second bonus to spawn time from the sundy, because it automatically puts attackers at a natural advantage to the defenders unless the defenders pull a sundy themselves. It completely trivializes base spawning. If anything, it should be reversed, because you can literally park a sundy closer to most objectives than a spawn room, directly contradicting the "travel time" logic of the bonus in the first place.

I also think this would make much more sense.

Sarloh · 2013-05-22, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Varsam

They need to remove the -5 second bonus to spawn time from the sundy, because it automatically puts attackers at a natural advantage to the defenders unless the defenders pull a sundy themselves. It completely trivializes base spawning. If anything, it should be reversed, because you can literally park a sundy closer to most objectives than a spawn room, directly contradicting the "travel time" logic of the bonus in the first place.

Exactly! A solution might be to make the AMS timer longer than the base times.

And a small idea that won't end well: what about making a small price for the AMS respawn? 5 infantry resources pr something? I know, it's probably a bad idea but it's an idea.

And as mentioned above yes, making the AMS take place of the passanger seats is a great idea! Also turrest could take place for 2 seats, the ressupy station would take space, and so on. Also I think that when loking at the model of a Sunedrer I don't think 12 soliders could fit in there, id they could a first person look inside it would be awsome, immagine seeing other people in it, the doors opening and rushing out, same for the Galaxy!