News: SOE Updates PlanetSide2 Road Map

Calista · 2013-05-28, 07:09 PM

Good stuff being pushed out. Kinda sad.

https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...ms/roadmap.59/

What appear to be new items:

Improved Introduction for New Players - Scheduled for July
Improved Death Screen - Scheduled for August
Additional Alert Types - Scheduled for June
Streamline Terminal/Loadout UI - Scheduled for June
Minimap and HUD Indicator Customization - Scheduled for June
Customizable Squad Colors - Scheduled for June
Squad and Platoon Management Improvements - Scheduled for June
Additional Loadouts - Scheduled for June

Existing Changes

Hossin - Scheduled for September
Continent Locking - Scheduled for November
Re-Certification - Scheduled for October
Vehicle Zoning - Scheduled for November
Cert Screen Revamp - Scheduled for August
Voice Packs - Scheduled for October
Galaxy Update - Scheduled for August
Engineer Update - Scheduled for November
Server Transfer Token - Scheduled for June
Faction Pistols - Scheduled for October
Player Made Decals / Player Studio - July
Vehicle Cosmetic Slots - GU11 / June
MAX Flamethrowers - Scheduled for July
Outfit Recruiting - Scheduled for July
Per Seat Vehicle Locking - Scheduled for July
Outfit Base Capture - Scheduled for August
Improved Vehicle Deconstruction - Scheduled for July
Resource Revamp - August
Outfit Progression - Scheduled for September
Implants - Scheduled for July
Community Grief Reporting - Scheduled for June
Interlink Facility - Scheduled for September
Player Generated Missions - Scheduled for August
Class Update: Combat Medic - Scheduled for September
Name Change Token - Scheduled for November
Esamir Battle Flow Improvements - Scheduled for June (these were shown on FNO last week)
Amerish Battle Flow Improvements - Scheduled for July

Assist · 2013-05-28, 07:31 PM

I think by now most of us have realized the roadmap is rather pointless. They may as well have put a bullet list in a thread that states what they might end up working on at some point throughout the years of Planetside2.

The original idea of the roadmap was to be dates that were for when they would start working on certain tasks. For the most part, that hasn't happened, they just work on whatever and they really don't care what the community has up/down voted. Lattice wasn't even on the list, though I'm glad they did it. Hossin is on the list and for whatever reason they've decided to become a typical closed development team and not tell us shit about it. Nearly everything on the roadmap list was there when it originally debuted, the difference is almost all of those things have been pushed back because everything that they have been working on is taking much longer than they thought.

Just noticed Hossin is all the way back to September. So more than likely we won't even get it until October. Think I'll go play another game for the next 4-5 months, this is getting rather ridiculous.

basti · 2013-05-28, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Assist

I think by now most of us have realized the roadmap is rather pointless. They may as well have put a bullet list in a thread that states what they might end up working on at some point throughout the years of Planetside2.

The original idea of the roadmap was to be dates that were for when they would start working on certain tasks. For the most part, that hasn't happened, they just work on whatever and they really don't care what the community has up/down voted. Lattice wasn't even on the list, though I'm glad they did it. Hossin is on the list and for whatever reason they've decided to become a typical closed development team and not tell us shit about it. Nearly everything on the roadmap list was there when it originally debuted, the difference is almost all of those things have been pushed back because everything that they have been working on is taking much longer than they thought.

Just noticed Hossin is all the way back to September. So more than likely we won't even get it until October. Think I'll go play another game for the next 4-5 months, this is getting rather ridiculous.

Da fuck are you talking about?

Hossin was well underway when they started going for the Lattice. The Lattice wasnt on the roadmap to being with because it never was a feature that was set in stone, or something that needed a voting progress to see how important it is.

We all knew for a long time that the Hex has massive issues. We all hoped to get those fixed, but whatever the devs did, nothing worked. They then attempted the lattice, first on the test server, now on indar, and currently they are taking a good deep look at how things play out. Heck, if the lattice would have caused big issues, then it would be pulled already.

Thats why Hossin went to the backburner. They didnt know if the lattice makes it or not. Now they know, now they can do a proper redesing of hossin with the lattice in mind.

As for the rest of the stuff: Your talking crap. The roadmap was never a "This is when this stuff will be out" list. It was a simple tool to show us right away on what they want to put in, and give direct feedback to this stuff. And it works quite well.

Assist · 2013-05-28, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by basti

As for the rest of the stuff: Your talking crap. The roadmap was never a "This is when this stuff will be out" list. It was a simple tool to show us right away on what they want to put in, and give direct feedback to this stuff. And it works quite well.

You are welcome to read my post rather than judge what you think I wrote. I specifically said the roadmap was for when things were to be worked on. They're not being worked on. Instead they're being pushed back MONTHS from the date they were supposed to be started, the only exception to that is Hossin, which is now expected in maybe October/November? Probably later, unless the roadmap has indeed turned into due dates for completion. How long did Amerish take to get fully in Basti? Now we're looking at a YEAR for Hossin? I'm not one to bash this dev crew but it's getting a bit out of control. As I said, it should of never been dated at all, it should of been a simple thread of "future expectations". THEY put the dates on stuff, THEY said development would start on those subjects during that time. Not us, Not this community. As far as them properly using the Roadmap, I think you should actually take a look at it rather than just assuming. As I said, I'm a fan of most of the changes they made. But look at what is coming up in June and July and try to tell me you're even little excited.

Also, as for your other post, what are you talking about cease communication? What communication do they have about any of the big updates? As they themselves said, they are not allowed to talk about Hossin, which would be the biggest content update to the game. They're FAR from an open development team. Shit, most of the time the only thing they actually respond to is flames through twitter.

You need to take a step back and look at what they have done, and more importantly what was on the roadmap that should of already have been started and has not made it in. Look specifically at the small shit that makes a BIG difference to players like the Transfer Tokens and even the large shit outside of Hossin, like resource revamp. Look at the most voted things on the roadmap that have made it through the roadmap to completion. Only two of the top 10 even made it through the Roadmap(Account level unlocks, Max Revamp) and all 10 of them were originally slated prior to June.

How long do you really think it takes to change the lattice? Look at Esamir already. Look at how fast Indar was redone, and it was completely redone(as we talked about in chat on the test server). Indar had massive base changes, terrain changes, and lattice implementation and it was 2 months ? Now it's taking a year to get Hossin done? It was originally on the roadmap for April. I give credit to people when it's due, this team has utterly failed to deliver any of the major content updates that are expected in a sequel to a game that had 12? continents. We have 3, we were told sometime within 6 months after release to expect another. Now we're being told double that amount of time. How long do you plan to give them on Searhus? What about Oshur? If you're ok with getting Oshur in 2015 more power to you, but if they want filled servers then they need to get moving quicker on the type of things that keep players interested. I'm a big fan of open development and I like that they TRY to be, but they're not anymore open then any other gaming company out there.

I'm sorry if it sounds harsh, it's honest opinion and unfortunately there's a large amount of players that agree it's taking too long for the major content updates. Most players don't feel like they are deciding what is being worked on or when it is being worked on, because we aren't. The only thing that I'd give players credit for so far is the lattice changes, but outside of that can you name me anything that has moved up due to the players demand for it?

Hamma · 2013-05-28, 07:39 PM

At least Hossin has a month now.

CrimsonTemplar · 2013-05-28, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

At least Hossin has a month now.

True True.

Hamma · 2013-05-28, 07:42 PM

Looks like there are some updates all around. Updating OP, posting as news.

Assist · 2013-05-28, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Looks like there are some updates all around. Updating OP, posting as news.

Yeah there's a bunch on there. Given their current track record of being horrible at time management(insert fuck MLG comment here), I think some will make it in 2013, but I think the majority won't be in until 2014.

I think the best one on the list is Server Transfer Tokens. I recall being told they were coming at the end of January! I'm sure they'll make it in June!

hashish · 2013-05-28, 07:41 PM

Haha yea i agree with assist.. As a player I just dont feel it actually matter what gets voted up or down.. They do tend to just work on whatever they want lol.. and the community feedback allows them to see what they are doing right and what they are doing wrong..

I mean dont get me wrong, there has been A LOT of changes based on feedback but its still relatively less than what you'd expect..

Vashyo · 2013-05-28, 07:50 PM

Hossin is way too far away, it and interlink facility are the only things I'm waiting for on that whole list.
We need new buildings that look different and completely different continents for some variety and that intecontinental conquest...I would really love to fight 1on1 against just one faction sometime, so it just isnt an infinite capping cycle.

Everythign else is just useless fluff for me on that list.

Rivenshield · 2013-05-29, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Vashyo

Hossin is way too far away, it and interlink facility are the only things I'm waiting for on that whole list.
We need new buildings that look different and completely different continents for some variety and that intecontinental conquest...I would really love to fight 1on1 against just one faction sometime, so it just isnt an infinite capping cycle.

Everythign else is just useless fluff for me on that list.

Same here. Lots of piddly shit but no strategic metagame until November, if then. Le sigh.

Hamma · 2013-05-28, 08:06 PM

Updated OP some more, new items on there now.

Calista · 2013-05-28, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Updated OP some more, new items on there now.

Thanks. I was a little to distraught to compile them myself. Oh well, like you say, at least some things do at least have a date now.

Sifer2 · 2013-05-28, 08:34 PM

So assuming it doesn't get pushed back anymore, it will be one year since release before we are playing Planetside 2 the way it should be with Continent locking. But we will only have 4 continents to do it on.

I'm wondering if they don't have the same size team they used to have or something. Maybe Everquest Next is drawing a lot of people away? I understand the team they have is probably working as hard as they can but IMO they need to move a bit faster than they are. The fact Dust 514 seems to be a flop has bought them more time. But Destiny is coming. It's a question of whether SOE wants to use their lead to try to lock down this genre, and be the leader in it or not. I don't think they will if they allow the game to go years without a fully developed metagame.

Sunrock · 2013-05-28, 08:27 PM

I had hope Hossin would have arrived at latest in July. But there is some things on the road map that I wonder way they have to change that already working good like Terminal/Loadout UI. Nothing wrong with how it looks now.