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Old 2014-02-12, 01:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Un-Nerf UBGL?


I would like to formally propose that the devs do this. Soon.

That's not to say I want it to be a hand-held dalton that is infinitely resuppliable by engineers, but a direct hit should be a 1 hit kill. As much as I know everyone hates OHKs, it's a grenade launcher and is hard enough to get a direct hit with anyway.

And the radius is ridiculously small. Testing in the VR my grenade exploded at the foot of a target and dealt no damage. It's terribly nerfed and nobody really uses it.

Typical overboard nerf, make it take longer to resupply at engi ammo boxes or something, but don't make it a waste of an underbarrel slot for all the classes that don't abuse the ammo box.
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Old 2014-02-12, 02:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Maybe not overdo it this time (as they tend to do) and just fix the trajectory and the sight first. That might already fix a few problems. Then we can talk about damage values, although I don't think it should be a OHK. We have too much of those already. But yes, I think the attachment is underperforming. Pretty much the only reason I use it for is shooting grenades at Maxes in close combat as you can actually reliably hit those (and get some damage done before being horribly shred to pieces)

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Old 2014-02-12, 02:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Screw UBGL, and the horse they rode in on. They can stay nerfed forever. At least 1hk headshotting someone with a sniper at range takes some skill.
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Old 2014-02-12, 02:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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It is kind of funny that people scream insults at you for suggesting a sniper rifle shouldn't OHK and complain non stop if you suggest touching a shotgun.. but a GRENADE LAUNCHER apparently shouldn't have OHK...

While we're being insane I think taunt should be a OHK for any enemy who hears it! and its entirely unfair that tanks don't blow up when they run into me!
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Old 2014-02-12, 03:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Disagree.
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Old 2014-02-12, 05:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Keep it nerfed. The last thing we need is yet more explosive-based farming.
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Old 2014-02-12, 05:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Can't believe people are actually disagreeing... If you get directly hit by a grenade launcher it deserves a one hit kill. Things like the UBGL are the reason you use S-variant weapons.

It ought to be doing some worth-while damage and it should be more reliable.

But really, all I'm asking is this: Can you say that in its current state it's adequate? Because nobody uses it right now. With a reason. Now, maybe my suggestion of a 1-hit kill (when the shell actually makes direct contact with the target) is "overkill" even though rockets do it, but something needs to be changed and it needs to be a reliable boom-launcher.

And farming? That's why I suggested making it take longer to resupply. Simple concept.
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Old 2014-02-12, 05:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Explosive damage as far as I know is bugged in the VR. That's not a good basis to go by when testing things like the ubgl.
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Old 2014-02-12, 11:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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I agree, Make my launcher like it was pre-nerf. Other than that, I'm perfectly fine with everything else (except buff the damage JUST A TAD BIT! And the speed needs a slight buff as well).

*EDIT*: Grammar.

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Old 2014-02-12, 11:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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No. It doesn't need to be OHK - but they could certainly adjustments to the radius/dropoff.
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Old 2014-02-12, 11:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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It was a fun but over rated weapon way back before the nerfs started.

The it was a weapon of limited situational usefulness.

And now its junk that only matters in that the S weapon variant is slightly worse than other weapons.
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Old 2014-02-13, 12:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I'm not against the UBGL being OHK. I am against snipers.
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Old 2014-02-13, 01:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by AThreatToYou View Post
I am against snipers.
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Old 2014-02-13, 10:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by synkrotron View Post
Hey, I gotta keep a clear standpoint. And I mean that humorously. I actually use the snipers a fair bit.
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Old 2014-02-13, 12:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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It should have more ammo. The Grenade Belt should increase it. Proper Grenadiers are missing from this game.
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