My review of PS

[TekDragon]

Im sure Elf boy can find some game, somewhere, where those weapons were done before.

Despite that, they are good, original ideas for a futuristic FPS. Im sure we could all think up any number of original ideas. The point is, so could the devs... but they didnt. Not because they codnt, but because they chose not to.

They (most likely with the marketing department) decided to do the least amount of effort possible and still hook people with the MM concept. They did it.

Now its just a matter of seeing if the subscribers exodus like they did with AC2... or if SOE gets a reality check and decides to blow us aways with content (content that should have been in on release).

[starrider]

oh i can think of many more wepons for PS not just for the Vanu either dont get me started

[MilitantB0B]

Man! People have given PlanetSide bad reveiws before, what made you guys key off this one so much to write 7 pages about it? I thought the standard for non-offensive posts you don't agree with, is maybe reply once, then let it drop like a stone. Thats why I have not posted as of yet, but seeing as how this thing doesn't look like its going to go away:
I like the game, but if you don't thats cool.

[Happy lil Elf]

Originally posted by TekDragon
[B]Im sure Elf boy can find some game, somewhere, where those weapons were done before.

Despite that, they are good, original ideas for a futuristic FPS.

For the majority of your ideas I listed the game you took them from, Tribes/Tribes 2. Don't try to make it sound like you'd have to hunt for a game that's used them before. If they have been done before, they are not original. I never said they were bad ideas but they aren't original so quit calling them that already.

Let me point it out again since you don't seem to get it. You ragged on PS for it's "cookie cutter" weapons, then propsed "cookie cutter" items and weapons. That amuses me.

[starrider]

you realize that he was talking about the wepons I made up and not the ones he listed earlier.

[Dharkbayne]

Originally posted by starrider
may i propose a wepon???

ok for the Vanu since im a vanu

Black Hole genade

upon detination it creates a vortex that ddamges anything it its blast radius severly and almost instantly kills the person /and or MAX that is close to the blast's center.

k it needs balanceing and its a bit powerful but hey i dont know of anything like that being suggested before.


and a rifle

darkfire

fires a close to black beam that causes resonable damage but burns afterward like a plasma genade, has medium rate of fire and almost no recoil per Vanu norm.

also i think that origanl too, but please if these have already been thought of tell me so i can thnk of new ones.

The black hole grenade type thing has been done before, Turok, the newest one, but, it would look purdy damn cool in this game, but would be unbalanced, and so would the Darkfire rifle,

[starrider]

wow its ben done before thats odd......but oh well the darkfire rifle hasnt been done yet has it???? and yea i know they need balnceing but hey it took me all of 3 minutes to think of them.

[TekDragon]

you realize that he was talking about the wepons I made up and not the ones he listed earlier.

Hahahaha Poor Elfy got pwned.

Anyway, how the hell is a disclauncher, rapid burst laser minigun, plasma rifle, particle cannon, cluster grenade, and beacon considered "cookie cutter".

WTF? Do you know what "cookie cutter" is? Having 3 factions where each faction has 1 AV weapons.. 1 HA weapon.. 1 MA weapon (empire specific)..

THATS cookie cutter.

I mean come the fuk on. Do you have any idea how many different types of weaponry our military uses today?

Not only that, but im 100% positive that the weaponry in PS is crap compared to some of the stuff our soldiers were using in Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Ooooh, good job SOE you thought up 4-5 machine guns and gave em cool names like "cycler" and "gauss" and "supressor". Oh wow, TWO shotguns? And TWO rocketlaunchers? Pardon me while i pass the fuk out from the thought it must of taken your devs to think up these weapons.

Holy cow, im so glad that in 1000 years of technology advancement weve discovered that plasma, ion streams, lasers, anti-matter, and electro magenetic technology are all crap compared to good ol' fancy lead.

Im even more impressed that weve somewhere along the line decided to make a giant factory that manufactures bases on an assembly line in 5 flavors.

Obviously in 1000 years military archetecture somehow became taboo. Designing a base to take advantage of the local terrain was considered "inefficient".

Pffft.. keep it coming fanboys.

Oh, one last thing. Im getting sick of being told "OMFG! If j00 dont like PS then WHY ARE YOU HERE?! Its so perfect! Only a moron wodnt like it! You should leave!"

Guess what Night and Nitcsh? Im here because i DO like this game. I gave the game an "average" review despite all its obvious content shortcomings. I think this game has loads of potential and I am trying to spark constructive critisism on how to make the game live up to its potential. Extremest fan boys like YOU dont want progress or constructive critisism, as if by adding content PS will fail. You both need to get a reality check and realize not everyone plays this game 24/7 and worships it the way you do.

[Dharkbayne]

Tek, if they had 100 weapons or whatever you want, think of the lag from all the different particles from gunfire, the models of the guns, all of that shit, think of how your FPS would drop like a fucking rock, dumbass, they don't have a shitload of weps for a reason, ya fucktard

[starrider]

would adding oh say.....10 more kill them?????????? we arent asking for a 100 we're asking for variety...and at least one more shotgun.

[beavis88]

>> WTF? Do you know what "cookie cutter" is? Having 3 factions where each faction has 1 AV weapons.. 1 HA weapon.. 1 MA weapon (empire specific)..

So what does that make tribes, where factions are 100% totally and completely identical? Hmm...

While it might be cool to have a game with 1000 different weapons and vehicles, I'd rather have a smaller number of weapons that are at least reasonably balanced. You can't just throw shit willy-nilly into a game like this without giving some serious thought to balance and affect on gameplay...frankly I am glad SOE seems to be conservative in this regard.

I certainly have no argument for you on the Wal-Mart modular fortresses, though. They could use some serious work, even if its just adding a few quirks to each base.

[starrider]

we're NOT argueing about tribes here we're argueing about planetside and when did we say to just think of a wepon and throw it into the game and see if its balenced?????????? all we are saying is that SOE couldve done much better when it came to base creation an wepon variety.

[Zarparchior]

I agree with you Bob. I don't know what it is, but it must be that Tek rubs people the wrong way or something.

I tend to agree with some of the points he made. PS is a very average game right now. With that said, I disagree with a lot of your opinions.

The graphics are not that sub par for an MMO. It might look a little less pleasing than AC2 or SWG, they are totally seperate genres and cannot be compared with this game. The code written and the amount of data actually being transfered varies greatly. Not only that, but lag is much much more bitter in a PvP environment - ESPECIALLY for an FPS. If you take in the whole scenario, I'd give the graphics and above average rating.

While I tend to dislike the CoF style at times, having pixel-perfect aiming all the time and allowing headshots would be counter-intuitive to what the game is supposed to accomplish. Another thing I already mentioned (and probably foremost) is lag. With only two hitzones (torso and legs maybe), that'd be TWICE the amount of traffic. When technology improves we may very well see hitzones in PS - not because I necessarily agree with it, but because so many people want it. If and/or when they do, I hope to god they make leg/arm/foot shots do significantly less damage to you, while head shots should be maybe 115% - 125% of what it is right now. Any more and everyone would be staring at the respawn screen for the majority of their session.

I'm no Fanboi, though. I'm a wannabe Fanboi. This game has great potential and I want to love everything about this game. But I can't. There are too many imbalances and imperfections. For example, due to maybe what happend in beta - the VS are perma-gimped. You may disagree and that is fine. I just say look at the numbers. At any given time, VS is usually the empire that needs more people... and it's times like that that disallow me from becoming a fanboi.

But yes! Proceed with your normal h8 mail for Tek.

[starrider]

1. dont call me bob

2 my opinions????? huh i never made comments about the graphics just that even though they made the gaphics engine fromt he ground up is no reason t have only five base maps. acutally i think the graphics are pretty good.


EDIT this entire post assumes you were talking to me and not ignoreing my post and talking to tek.

[Happy lil Elf]

Hahahaha Poor Elfy got pwned.

Yeah, because since you were arguing with me there's no way anyone could interpret what you said to be a furtherance of that argument and not a new line of discussion Address people by their names and/or use quotes, makes things a tad clearer

And in that I agree Starr those are pretty original. I'm sure of I dug deep enough I could find something that's remotely similar but like I said, that's not really hard nor is it the issue. I wasn't arguing about your weapons or any other wepaons. You can propse great new ideas all day. Doesn't change the fact that Tek "pwned" himself with his list of weapons and I found it amusing /shrug