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Old 2003-06-10, 08:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #46
Intruder
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Originally posted by Jarlo
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I am one of these "dumbasses" who play VS. What you have to realize is not everyone plays vid games to be the most uber l33t superputz in the world. Some of us like a challenge and like to be the underdog.

You like TR because they take the least skill and practice to play. I like VS because it takes alot of work to play them and it is very challenging. Different strokes for different folks.

Edit: spelling sucks

Since when does TR take the least skill to play? maybe if all you play is shooting people, but Every side is more than just who you kill, every side has its hard aspects and its easier aspects.

Man enough of this "this side is for n00bs this side is for 3117 players"

Just understand that each side requieres different kinds of skill, but non are eaiser than any other.
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Old 2003-06-10, 08:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #47
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Originally posted by DarkDragon00
actually gauss wins up close and cycler from far off. Gauss has to deal with too much recoil to not be an upcloase weapon and the fact that it has more punch. Cycler has the most accurate burst mode ever, it snipes shooting 5-10 rounds if u want!
Absolutely..... WRONG! Ive killed about 30 people far off with the gauss never picked off a single one with the cycler not much damge per shot (Whats wrong with the recoil on the gauss myabe its cuz i fire in bursts) cycler rules at close range and the guass rules at long range PERIOD(.)
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Old 2003-06-10, 09:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #48
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No, im sorry the gauss ownes long range. It just does.
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Old 2003-06-10, 09:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #49
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I HATE Peolpe that think vanu are cowards, HOW THE HELL are they supposed to win in a brawl with inferior weapons, vanu weapons can not compete w/ the other factions, so we have to use a little somthing i like to call....... wait for it........ TACTICS not just running at each other w/ guns blazing, people who win w/ vanu weapons have to use skill to win not just sit and blast away, people haven't stood in nice neat line and shot at each other scence the civil war, so i dont think that people would do that newhere in the future. vanu arn't cowards they have to fight with their guns AND their brains bcuz they cant just spray and pray like the other factions
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Old 2003-06-10, 09:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #50
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This does seem rather sad argueing the toss about who is weaker and who is stronger, every faction has their strong and weak points. Has anybody ever thought that this could be down to the players actual skill, like hand and eye co-ordination? i play in all 3 empires on different servers and on somedays i kick a$$ and on others i get my A$$ handed to me, i have my good and bad days and im sure others do too, you just have to do the best with what you've got.
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Old 2003-06-10, 10:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #51
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I'm very good with Gauss at far range, and still very good with it at short range. If you're shooting with it close range and you just stop firing for .3 seconds, the CoF drops fast even while you're moving.

And whoever thinks VS players are smarter on average...well that statement is laughable. Most of the players on any side do the same thing when I shoot at them: They turn around, and either crouch and shoot, or run straight at me guns blazing. Nevermind the fact I've only got half my profile exposed because the rest is covered by the crest of a hill, rock or tree.

I'll admit if a VS player wants to get as many kills as an NC or TR, he would need to have a *bit* more skill...but not as much as brains, and they're not much better off in that department imo. We all have idiot players on our side >_<
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Old 2003-06-11, 04:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #52
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KEKE TEH VS SUXX LIKE TEH OTHER DAY I WAS LIKE "HAHA UR DUM VS NOOB PULSAR OMG LOL WTF" AND HE WAS LIEK "OMG I AM TEH DEAD" LO213L12!!

I'd be thrilled to give in to the "VS players just suck and that's why they're suffering" argument if I felt that either TR or NC was actually laying some sort of skill down that we simply can't fathom.
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Old 2003-06-11, 04:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #53
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You forgot the "KThXBYE!@!! HAHAHAHHAHAHA"

I think the TR need a specialised PR dept. to protect us from these guys trying to get us nerfed..
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Old 2003-06-11, 05:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #54
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The guass wins v. the cycler at long range, and the Jackhammer wins v. the chaingun at close range.

Hmm.
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Old 2003-06-11, 05:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #55
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I think there are equal numbers of stupid people in every faction. It's just that some weapons are more idiot proof than others.

It just seems that NC and TR have more idiot proof weapons than Vanu do.
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Old 2003-06-11, 09:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #56
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Originally posted by Nitsch

It just seems that NC and TR have more idiot proof weapons than Vanu do.
Well said.
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Old 2003-06-11, 09:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #57
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Originally posted by Vex
[BPhoenix=Striker-Even again. Despite the fact the striker has 3 missiles it cannot beat the firepower and accuracy of the phoenix. [/B]
Im sorry, i got to here and i was completly over whelmed with the urge to lash out and hit something. THE STRIKER LOCKS ON. How in gods name could a pheonix be more accurate? "Oh i can shoot it over walls and around corners!" well....i can still dodge pheonix missles easily in my magrider by driving into them and straffing. Try that with a striker and i get 3 missles up my tailpipe.

Again, i appologize for not reading the rest of the thread. The following has probally been stated by atleast a dozen people.

As for TR not being overpowered, why do you think they toned down the max units? Im sure its just becuase they hate the TR, nothing to do with balance.

The server stats show it as well. TR have almost all the daily wins on every server. Dont you find that odd? Could they have some sort of advantage to cause that?

Have you noticed that all the servers have VS has the lowest force? Well...except for the british server...but they always have things backwards
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Old 2003-06-11, 11:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #58
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I don't feel half as annoyed when I die to a phoenix as compared to a striker death. Why? Because I know the phoenix kill took at least *some* skill. If you can't recognize that the striker takes less skill and is more effective than the phoenix, maybe it's time to actually, you know, TRY the damn weapons.
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Old 2003-06-12, 10:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #59
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The Striker doesn't do that much damage but is good against ground vehicles to be sure. It's all but useless against any pilots who know what they're doing, and it has tons of trouble locking onto MAXs from any sort of distance. It is useless against infantry (a weak Decimator, really).
The Phoenix works against ground vehicles as well but has the added benefit of being very effective against infantry. As a sniper I've had the distinct experience of NC firing those things over hills and up my tailpipe more than a few times after I'd taken a shot and gotten out of 'harms way'.
For good pilots the Striker is most effective by target locking them just to get them to run away to shake the lock. Firing 3 missiles in the general vicinity of the Reaver/Mossy and then putting a late lock on really only works with bad pilots or a heap of luck. The slower ground vehicles are the only things that move slow enough and have a hard enough time shaking the lock to make the Striker effective at all. I can see why drivers would think the Striker doesn't take skill, but that's because it's only effective against them.
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Old 2003-06-12, 12:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #60
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Originally posted by Nitsch
I think there are equal numbers of stupid people in every faction. It's just that some weapons are more idiot proof than others.

It just seems that NC and TR have more idiot proof weapons than Vanu do.
but your vanu. If you were NC or TR i would give you more credit to what you just said
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