Well it looks like VS and NC have switched

[BUGGER]

jw.....has nc ever got anything nerfed?

[WritheNC]

the beta gauss rifle could fire more rounds before the cof started to widen, and at release I think they changed it so it widens sooner. I think the accuracy was changed too but I'm not sure if either of these happened(there was hearsay), although it felt like it to me! But if I don't play 3-4 hours a day my skills go straight to hell heh

[Streamline]

I can regularly kill jackhammer users. for the majority, they use their noobhammer incorrectly. however, it's taking more and more luck to survive encounters with multiple JH users.

you have to fight them almost like you do a max. constant speed strafing with surge to get the upper hand. whereas before, I popped off 3 shots w/out much movement, then died.

also, abusing the way stairs work helps a lot in tower battles.

all in all it is an extreme challenge to survive JH encounters.

[Cirkusphreak]

All the upgrades and increases to weapons doensn't make anyone a better player. Everyone and their mom is now talking shit because they have new upgrades and feel superior now. Whatever. When the game is balanced through and through, then people who stand out on a balanced playing field can talk trash. HA blows on every side. I don't use the jackhammer in case would-be flamers are standing by. I'll stick with the BD.

[Aegis]

I just hope the TR and NC are given something to help. I play NC on Werner mainly and almost since release the vanu have won almost every single day, and that was before the patch!

[tmartinez72]

I do find it entertaining reading how some of the NC are whining about the Lasher. It like the roles were immediately reversed. Just swap JH and lasher words around.

Yet, I do find the lasher incredibley effective at medium ranges. Much more than the JH. I killed alot with the JH, and even killed at MA with the JH if the target was not paying attention.

The lasher though, I can kill as easily at short ranges as I do medium ranges.

The Lasher CoF is too large to kill anything at long ranges unless you're lucky. The orbs are all over the place, but the target.

The only problem I see with the new lasher is that the damage drop off is either non-existant or too low.

If they fix that, I think it'll be more in line with what a close range HA weapon is suppposed to be.

[1024]

Originally posted by Onizuka
that doesnt sound like you hamma... are you drunk

The real question is, Are you not drunk?

[Queensidecastle]

Funny story... This morning I was camping a spawn room while waiting on the hack to cap and some guy thought he was clever and was matrixed at another base/tower. He would spawn in with reinforced/lasher. After I jackhammered him 3 times in a row, I shit you not, he spawned in with his own jackhammer that he obviously retrieved from his locker and was finally able to kill me.

The point of the story is that the Jackhammer is still king at close range.

[Eliaas_Demens]

I honestly think the dev's were aiming for range specialties with the HA. Jackhammer owns all at Close Range. Yet the Lasher whups it's ass at Medium range. However both the Lasher and the Jackhammer have nothing on the Mini Chain Gun's accuracy at longer distances.

[Madcow]

Originally posted by Eliaas_Demens
I honestly think the dev's were aiming for range specialties with the HA. Jackhammer owns all at Close Range. Yet the Lasher whups it's ass at Medium range. However both the Lasher and the Jackhammer have nothing on the Mini Chain Gun's accuracy at longer distances.

??? The MCG is still worthless at long ranges. The reticule starts out too large to begin with even crouched, and even though the bloom is delayed it's still large enough quick enough to make sure it makes no sense trying to use it from distance. The cycler is far better from distance than MCG is, although MCG is finally moderately useful at medium range.

[Eliaas_Demens]

Originally posted by Madcow
??? The MCG is still worthless at long ranges. The reticule starts out too large to begin with even crouched, and even though the bloom is delayed it's still large enough quick enough to make sure it makes no sense trying to use it from distance. The cycler is far better from distance than MCG is, although MCG is finally moderately useful at medium range.

Are you kidding? I get riddled with chain guns before I'm close enough to even consider using my Thumper.

[Madcow]

Originally posted by Eliaas_Demens
Are you kidding? I get riddled with chain guns before I'm close enough to even consider using my Thumper.

I'm not kidding at all. From that distance I wouldn't even bother pulling the MCG out. I think you should loot a few and try them out, they aren't what you think they are. They're far more useful than they used to be, and they're fun to use, but they're no good from a distance.

[ONiel]

I'll back that up. Long range belongs to the cycler. Med and closer MCG is ok. The MCG, while improved, is not a long range weapon. Try one.

[Queensidecastle]

"The cycler is far better from distance than MCG is, although MCG is finally moderately useful at medium range"

I concur. Totally true statement

[Cease]

*hugs his Cycler*

Its my favorite weapon in the game.