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I belive that believing in the Trinity, that Christ is the Saviour makes you Christian, Duck is right, as Catholics belive this. 5 20.00%
Catholics and Protestants worship a bit differently, Dumbass is right. 8 32.00%
Err... I don't really follow the inner workings of the Church that much... 12 48.00%
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Old 2003-09-05, 06:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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I got this dumbass at school that is totally convinced that Catholics aren't Christian, that there's Catholics and Christians, but that the two aren't the same. He's Catholic and he keeps bringing up stuff like Rosaries. I tell him it's just fricken jewelery, get over it. I ask him if he believes in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We get into this debate about whether it's really supposed to say Holy Ghost. I say that the actual term is Holy Ghost, but because ghost now means dead spirit, they changed to it to Holy Spirit to indicate it's not dead. Anyway... do you belive Catholics are just a denomination(sp?) of Christianity, or do you think they're they're own religion and protestants are completely different?

Don't vote unless you've got a decent understanding of the Church.
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Old 2003-09-05, 06:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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and wouldnt ya know it


more spam from duck


who cares about catholics and protestants
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Old 2003-09-05, 06:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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And THIS is why I hang out at the WoW boards. 1 person that voted for Dumbass was MTX, I know he believes that. I suspect Postal voted for him, too.

If Catholics don't belive in the Trinity, I'd like to know. If the definition of Christian has changed, I'd like to know that, too.

Dumbass is a dumbass in other matters, not just this. I've given that title to him because it suits him.
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Old 2003-09-05, 07:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Uh, yeah Catholics are Christians, I am one. I don't go to church but yeah I'm a Catholic AND a Christian. This thread is not spam it's an interesting topic. Postal, why would you post that you don't care? Do you thing duck cares that you don't care?
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Old 2003-09-05, 07:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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meh....religion...

In my opinion, humans created god to keep people under control, knowing that if they do something bad they'll go to hell. The basis of religion is to keep people in order, and I suppose on some standards govern the way they act.

I'm sure somewhere in the bible or ..whevever it says "be kind to others" I'm kind to others just because I believe being a good person makes this world just a little bit better, not because some ancient book says I should or god won't like me. I don't need to believe there is some higher being controling my life to feel at ease that I'm not alone in the universe. (which I believe is another reason humans would create a "god", so they believe something is watching over them)

Even if there is a god, and he's all forgiving, you think he'd rather you worship him, or spend your church time making the world a better place? So long as you'd act the way the bible states, I don't think he'd care less if you worshiped him or not.

Gah...instead of writing some paragraphs I guess I could have just said:

I base facts on scientific facts. Not ancient writings that really have no viable evidence to present.
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Old 2003-09-05, 07:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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First, I would like to say,

This thread ROCKS!!!

Now, on to my opinion on Christian/Catholic beliefs.

They follow the same God, so why cant we all just get along? Seriously, I have always thought that Christians, Catholics, Muslims, and **** should just band together and all worship God together, rather then seperating themselves from their fellow man.

I mean, why should anyone be so hung up on HOW they worship God? He's GOD. Omnipotent power of love and justice and all that touchy-feelyness. Why should it matter to him how you worship? Why should it even matter that you worship at all? As long as you believe in him and believe that what you do is right, why worry?

Religions these days arent just about "My God can kick your Gods ass!" theyre about "My interpretation of what is generally accepted as holy is better then your interpretation" WTF?? Just be happy you CAN worship as you like in this country.

If I know anything about ANY of the faiths listed above, they preach unity of the people and goodness towards others. Isnt that enough? Do you really have to bend over backwards convincing people that your way will get them into heaven and anythign else is just bad?

As I said before, lets all just get along. Do what you will, be happy, and be as good as your nature allows.
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Old 2003-09-05, 07:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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I believe that the comedian Denis Leary said it best;

"Do you believe in God?"

"No"

{BANG} "you're dead"

---later

"Do you believe in God?"

"Yes"

"Do you believe in MY God?"

"No"

{BANG} "you're dead. My God has a bigger dick than your God."
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Old 2003-09-05, 08:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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telling people at school about your religious belifes, or even just discussing religion is a bad idea, none of them know what theyre talking about, and if you disagree with them in any way, they always get pissed.
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Old 2003-09-05, 08:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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It was a lunch table discussion. We aren't allowed to pick where we sit, so I have to sit by this guy all through lunch. He thinks I like him though I make it very clear that I dislike him.

The district slogan is "I am the me that I choose to be, and I will decide my destiny." Now, first off, that's an oxymoron. Destiny is carved out for you, that no matter what you do you will undoubtedly end up doing whatever. You can't change it, simple as that. I hate that...


Lol at Sentrosi, that's what we call Nazi/Facism. We try to stay away from that, but undoubtedly a few weirdos end up in every group of people.

And Kaikou, I have to disagree. Conscience and law already took over that, there was no need for a God to enforce it. It's like abortion. Many women who get abortions end up fucked up in the head a few years down the road, no need for a God to enforce that it's wrong.
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Old 2003-09-05, 08:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Same God, same beliefs, same religion ---- different worship habbits.

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Old 2003-09-05, 09:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Re: Religion Question


Originally posted by Mr1337Duck
I got this dumbass at school that is totally convinced that Catholics aren't Christian, that there's Catholics and Christians, but that the two aren't the same. He's Catholic and he keeps bringing up stuff like Rosaries. I tell him it's just fricken jewelery, get over it. I ask him if he believes in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We get into this debate about whether it's really supposed to say Holy Ghost. I say that the actual term is Holy Ghost, but because ghost now means dead spirit, they changed to it to Holy Spirit to indicate it's not dead. Anyway... do you belive Catholics are just a denomination(sp?) of Christianity, or do you think they're they're own religion and protestants are completely different?

Don't vote unless you've got a decent understanding of the Church.
In my opinion (being a Christian (Assembly of God, if you are wondering what denomination) and being somewhat educated in the matters of ideology) Catholics are Christians. Although they differ from nearly every other denomonation in religious practices and beleifs, they do beleive in the life, death, and ressurection of Jesus Christ and the salvation that offers. Just tell him he better hope hes a Christian, because its just going to be us Christians (and maybe ****, still not sure about that...) in heaven.

As for those that say that man created the idea of God to keep people under control, I have one question, who made man? I know, i know, evolution, but that theory has more holes in it then any other "scientific" principle i have ever seen. You think it takes faith to beleive in God, study a little more about evolution, sheesh, sometimes I wish I had that much faith.
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Old 2003-09-05, 09:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Originally posted by Kaikou
meh....religion...

In my opinion, humans created god to keep people under control, knowing that if they do something bad they'll go to hell. The basis of religion is to keep people in order, and I suppose on some standards govern the way they act.

I'm sure somewhere in the bible or ..whevever it says "be kind to others" I'm kind to others just because I believe being a good person makes this world just a little bit better, not because some ancient book says I should or god won't like me. I don't need to believe there is some higher being controling my life to feel at ease that I'm not alone in the universe. (which I believe is another reason humans would create a "god", so they believe something is watching over them)

Even if there is a god, and he's all forgiving, you think he'd rather you worship him, or spend your church time making the world a better place? So long as you'd act the way the bible states, I don't think he'd care less if you worshiped him or not.

Gah...instead of writing some paragraphs I guess I could have just said:

I base facts on scientific facts. Not ancient writings that really have no viable evidence to present.

I 110% agree with that post,God was created to make people fear being bad,it was created to keep people in order
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Old 2003-09-05, 09:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally posted by firecrackerNC
I 110% agree with that post,God was created to make people fear being bad,it was created to keep people in order
If man created God, who created man?
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Old 2003-09-05, 09:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally posted by MilitantB0B
If man created God, who created man?
Primates, and even farther down the line
Bacteria
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Old 2003-09-05, 10:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally posted by Sputty
Primates, and even farther down the line
Bacteria
Who created the bacteria?
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