Religion Question

[Kaikou]

nah, if anything the trolls are the ones saying I'm lost and I'm going to hell and such, because unlike my debate posts, those are unconstructive.

Nothing wrong with stirring up the crowd and sitting back and watching the chaos.

It's called being an instigator. Which I am at the moment and having quite a bit of fun being one.

[Onizuka]

did you read a single one of my posts. only god can judge where you go.

[Kaikou]

If they were short and sweet, yeah I probably read it, saying one is lost though is implying that they aren't favored by a god. So I just figured thats what was being implied.

It doesn't bother me though, I don't believe in a heaven or hell, so saying I'm going to hell doesn't really apply. What right do you have to judge if I'm "lost" if I don't believe in religion in the first place? That's kinda like the other religions around the world crashing planes into buildings because we aren't following their religions...

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by Kaikou
your post is too long I'm just continuing this because it's fun to read everyone's replies with the universal "god exists and if you don't believe so I feel sorry for you". I don't wanna read entire essays because I'm just having fun with this.

Sure some biblical events have some scientific backing, such as the flood, but did you know that around 80% of what is land now used to be covered with water back in primal days? Perhaps the "big flood" turned out to be a set of circumstances where the earth got warmer, some of the polar ice caps melted and raised the water level. There was no evidence that it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. Just evidence that water levels got higher for awhile.

I was talking about the biblical events that have in fact been proven to be false. I'm not a bible beater so I don't know a lot of them, but Earth is a solid chunk of rock. Not a bunch of pillars holding up whatever it was they were holding up..

I'd go on but I think I've planted enough anti-religion posts for the pro-religion people to flame me and entertain me for a good while...

Flame on! Tell me I'm lost! Tell me I'm going to hell! bwahaha it's all so entertaining!

Ok, so the worlds ice caps melted over a couple of hundred of years and the earths water level raised slowly rose, but that does not account for fossils. Fossils are living matter that has been caught up suddenly under earth and rock. Even the slowest moving animals wouldn't have been caught by the rising waters of your theory.

If you think you have an instance where the Bible is proven wrong, go ahead and post it. I am interested to hear where you have succeded where anti-christian theologists have failed for years.

I guess you might not respond to this, seeing as how you find it all so entertaining. Or maybe your just a little uneasy. And perhaps you should be.

[321]

I didn't say he didn't make monkeys!!! He created everything I said I don't think we evolved from monkeys or anything else.

[Kaikou]

lol militantbob, I'm having fun because I get to keep pissing you people off. I tried to stay constructive with it but it became negative, so now I'm just having my bit of instigating fun.

So yes I'll reply.

Anti-christian theologists have failed for years because no matter how much proof they get against a certain something, the christians will just say "it's written in the bible, therefore it's true". It's not worth trying to get someone like that to understand scientific proof. Ever try reasoning with a 3 year old why it would be better if the other kid gets the lolipop instead of him? It's kinda like that.

So many people are challenging him that he has to retreat to the "I'm still posting to piss you people off!" line. That's the real entertainment.

ghost

PS: I started writing this reply before his post directly above this one was submitted. Did I call that or what?

[Kaikou]

think what you will, I don't run away because a bunch of religious people are challenging me, I believe what I believe, you believe what you believe. But in all honesty it is truly fun to get religious people worked up.

[Onizuka]

Kaikou, why are you laughing. Your better than this.... if this is all a flame-baiting game to try and piss off religious people, bug off. I have explained what i thought, and so has everyone else. You have to believe there are many types of christianity, and i am proud of mine.

The happiest people wander the desert, i know its true.

[Kaikou]

Onizuka, I'm just playing the game that seems to have formed from this used-to-be-debate. It was somewhat constructive. But if you guys are allowed to try and bash down my beliefs, wouldn't it only be fair if I was allowed to do the same? As I said before the debate was fun. I don't care if anyone believes me, because I know for a fact that none of you will ever believe me, and you should know as well that I will never believe you. It's one of those stale-mate debates that should have ended before it started and I as well am at fault for letting it go on and turn into what it currently is.

Just know, that I like debating, often times I'll even go against something I believe to be true just to get a good debate in. I've always enjoyed debate class in school so I guess it's just in my nature to like debating online as well.

Onizuka, I like you, if I offended you I apologize, militantbob, I don't really even know..so I have to hold judgement there, whoever else.. It wasn't meant to offend you, it was meant to express my opinion, and see what yours was.

Maybe I just hate religion so much because it was constantly forced on me when I was young and still is today (as I go to a catholic school, and though I'm not religious and would rather be somewhere else, it has the best education in the state) I like to gather the facts and make my own decision, which religion, to me, seems to contradict.

[Onizuka]

no you didnt offend me, you just said some things that bothered me, but i have to realize, a lot of people think the way you do. I used to like debating, but i always felt i was on the wrong side (well who doesnt) so now i just dont. Unless it is Religion (or when it comes to drugs with tek )

Having a set religion forced on you isnt good. I remember a while back my parents said i could come to church or not. I went and thought eh kinda boring, but the more i read about its true deepness the more i am enthralled. Again im referring to the orthodox church.

To me religion isnt about proving everything with details and numbers, or picking at every little thing.

I just hope you are making the correct decision kaikou, and not trying the other side. By that i mean trying a different type of christianity, and not being force fed it.

[Kaikou]

I dunno the way I see it, if you're a good person, and there is a god, he probably doesn't care if you believe in him or worship him.

When I was 5 my parents would force me to go to church with them, and even at that age I had my doubts. No religion can't be proven by science, and it really can't be disproven either.

(BTW my whole "religion will be disproven by science eventually" was not really what I thought, thats where the argument turned sour methinks)

Anyways, no hard feelings all, I just jump at every debate chance I get, whether it's a good debate or a debate I don't have enough supporting evidence to have a case with.

[Mr1337Duck]

And I hate those bastards that memorize liek 50 fricken quotes from the bible, exactly, with its exact location in the bible. If it's a very important thing for your argument, that's fine, but if you just memorize them... congratulations, you're a dumbass.

[Kaikou]

Kinda like that guy I know who memorized PI up to the.. 4000th digit.

There's supposedly someone out there that memorized it up to somewhere in the 200,000th digit area but I don't know him o

[r3d]

Sorry for trolling but as hamma would say if he thought this thread sucked, well

This thread sucks