Is your SUV killing innocent people?

[Airlift]

I do my homework, you don't. Facts Vs. Myth, and ATM, Fact is on my side. I am enjoying this tremendously, but please, for future sake, dont ever callme a liar agian unles you can back up your assertions that what I have posted as a fact is otherwise.

I will always refute supported argument that throws around fact vs myth. That isone of the oldest red herrings in the book. Just because you purposely left out your support to bait me into refuting it doesn't change the FACT that it was unsupported. So let's hear it then.

[MrVicchio]

Actually,

I think it is more like, you called me a liar. SO far, all you have done is rant about SUV's. I pulled up a pro-SUV tag off a website. You then called me a liar.. fine, instead of me proiving I am not making this up... REFUTE my "facts" otherwise.. this will go no where.

All I am asking is that you take a moment to look at the otherside. I just spent 30 minutes wading through ANTI-SUV sites, and most of them say the same thing. And most of them are based on emotions or faulty research. That much is certain. I am sick of this, and say, been fun, you get to go wade I am tired of it.

[Airlift]

It really doesn't matter that much to me if you support your argument or don't. Don't get mad at me for not taking it seriously tho if you don't. And in any case, I have not gone off throwing "facts" around that would require citing references, unless you count me saying that 10 gallons is less than 50 gallons.

And here's the real catch of it all: Commercial research and Statistics are only as good as the money that paid for them. Firestone and Ford both had studies that backed up their side of the whole "Whose fault is it that all the SUVs are flipping" lawsuit.

[Doobz]

mmm, i have a grand ole idea.

why dont we just let this thread die and return peace to the forums?

i say kill it now.

[Hamma]

Nobody will win this argument

[Civilian]

http://home.earthlink.net/~downloadh...es/arguing.jpg

[MrVicchio]

WEll Hamma, if a certain person had gone AWOL from the PS Forums, I would be doing my NEWS job.. instead, I have been searching in vain for neigh on 48 hrs now and nary a word... first we get teasers about a flood of info.. then the river runneth dry....

This is just a distraction...

[Navaron]

Don't make fun of corky.

[Lexington_Steele]

Navaron, I just read your long post and it gave me a good hearty laugh. I have a few questions for you, all centered around the question of: Where do you come up with your facts and figures?

Where is this proof that global warming doesn't exist?
I ask you: Why were the hottest 5 years in the last 100 years all in the last 10 years? Do you even know what having melted polar ice caps would do? Do you even know why global warming is bad? Do you even know why global warming could be good?

Where did you get the idea that there is less polution today than there was 8 years ago? Where did you get the idea that humans can not have a drastic effect on their environment?

Where did you hear that oil is an unlimited quantity?

I could go on and on with the questions, but that is enough for now.

[Airlift]

Wait a second, what's wrong with a good argument anyway? I'm having fun with this thread, and I have been since the first post. It's not like I'm expecting everyone to move to the outback or sell their SUV. I'm not trying to hurt Mr.Vicchio's feelings and I'm sorry if I did, Vic.

On the other hand, I still think your SUV is lame, and it is hard to see around.

Allow me to present smilies to make everyone feel better

[Zumthor]

Good call, debates are fun and interesting, they stimulate you brain and force you to think, they also let you see other peoples sides of the argument. They are good educational fun!

Let the thread stay!

[SandTrout]

I say the more suvs the better, it will destroy a major resorce faster and help my quest to end civilization as we know it.

Let people make their own decisions. If they wan't an suv, let them deal with the costs of gass and the annoyance of car-pooling. Us American "pig-dogs" are the most powerful bitches in the world because we alow our people to make their own decisions(with a few historical exceptions). People learn from their mistakes, and those who don't make as many of them get more money.Thats what this country is based on and that is what has made us the one supperpower in the world.

Though some of us may be pigs, at least we are strong, when other, more govorment controled countries, are not.

[Kyonye]

SUV's are good for nothing in this world. I always here about SUV caused accidents. I live in New York state. anyone who lives in southern NY, we've had some good snow storms. one storm we had, there were over 90 accidents on the New Jersey Tunrpike (big highway) and over 70 of them were SUV's. anyway who drives an SUV acts like they are in control of everything with their 4 wheel drive system and their extra few thousand pounds of aluminum alloy.

Two of my friends were killed by a F***ing SUV this past summer on a highway. the SUV thought that they could take a hard turn into another lane, side swiped my friends vehicle. They went off the road at around 70 m/hr and smashed into a tree. they both died instanstly and the car was crushed.

If your going to have an SUV, just go offroad with it like it was meant to be instead of going to the grocery store.

[SandTrout]

Or just don't be a compleat dumb*ss about driveing it...

[Navaron]

I know how to liven this thread up.....

SUV drivers would drive safer and slower if everyone had guns in the car with them. Think about it.