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Old 2004-03-05, 08:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Originally Posted by Firefly

Yeah, way to go. Let's glorify Hitler too while we're at it. He made France what it is today.

ok, hitler made germany rich, and was probably the best public speaker ever.

and yes, people now a days in russia look back on stalin and glorify him, remembering him as a person that put them into one of the world leaders. though, both leaders did do a few good things, both killed alot of people.

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Old 2004-03-05, 08:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Some people looked at hitler as a great speaker. The way he always managed to influence soo many people for his beliefs. Also he made people very emotional when they listened to him. But none the less he was an awful person. I'm just saying he was a damn good speaker. Just watch a film of him giving one of his lectures.
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Old 2004-03-05, 10:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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i agree, he was prolly the best public speaker ever, what he said, i dont agree with, but he got people to, i remember a *** on the history channel went to one of hitlers rallys once, he said that even he was affected by the speach.
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Old 2004-03-05, 10:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Ogge, I'd been wondering if you were a total fucking moron and the answer is apparently a resounding yes. Thanks for clearing that up.

Zeus, as usual, shut the fuck up. You of all people have no place talking down to anyone about grammar or spelling. Also, if you want to discuss Bush or politics, go to the Political Debate Forum so that people can at least rip you to shreds in an appropriate setting.
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Old 2004-03-05, 10:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Ogge, go tell someone to beat you up. Just as a gift to me.

BTW, Zeus, shut up. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 2004-03-05, 11:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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i realy hope most of you see my post was a joke,,,


- I do not admire Stalin -

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Old 2004-03-05, 11:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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lol sure bud
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Old 2004-03-05, 11:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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He killed millions of his own people and was a remarkably poor military strategist. May he burn in hell.
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Old 2004-03-06, 02:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Originally Posted by Ogge
i realy hope most of you see my post was a joke,,,


- I do not admire Stalin -
... Then this thread is pointless :lockplz:
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Old 2004-03-06, 02:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Originally Posted by Ogge
i realy hope most of you see my post was a joke,,,


- I do not admire Stalin -
Sure.
Here's a tip, when trying to use sarcasm, it's generally a good idea to indicate that it is in fact sarcasm in some way.
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Old 2004-03-06, 02:55 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Originally Posted by ZeusCali
we em, can't they're dead


btw: This thread was very difficult to read, you guys never proof read and that causes it to be odd none flowing sentences. When you wright it like that, it sounds like a 10 year old typing. Grammar? They don't know much about it, do you?


--edit oh yes and i agree the ends do not justify the means, if bush kills 100 billion people so that he can stay in office is that worth the means? to him it might, but for most it wouldn't. To say the ends justify the means, takes a point of view on it which you can't really when that many deaths are envolved.
Non-flowing. Write...and if you just generally read through that edit as a whole, you could sort out your grammar so it read as a flowing sentence. plsthxbye.
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Old 2004-03-06, 07:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Originally Posted by Happy lil' Elf
Sure.
Here's a tip, when trying to use sarcasm, it's generally a good idea to indicate that it is in fact sarcasm in some way.
Then he wouldn't get the reactions he got.
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Old 2004-03-06, 07:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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why do you always comment on my grammr being very bad? IF YOU SEE a problem with my grammar dont flame correct it OKAY? and happy lil elf i serious doubt you read my posts any more you just see zeuscali and say stfu learn grammr.

if you are going to comment on something i say then i would very much like that you did so with examples and corrections.

sputty what do i not know that you think it is needed to say "BTW, Zeus, shut up. "
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Old 2004-03-06, 08:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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SHUT THE FUCK UP ZEUS YOU HYPOCRITICAL INBRED MONKEYFUCKING TWAT
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Old 2004-03-06, 09:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Something interesting to note, when in Talks about what should happen to Germany and many other things, Stalin sent his interpereter out to get some water. The Allies talked freely at this point, talking about thier strategy and what they were willing to discuss with Stalin. What they didn't know was that Stalin understood English. He was therefore able to completely undermine the Allies efforts and attempts at many things towards the end of World War II.

Stalin was not a great man, nor was Hitler. Both Killed MIllions of people. Something of note is that no matter how many things you read, no one Really knows the population of **** in Europe before World War II. They say there were 9 million. After Hitler they say there were only 3 million left. HOwever there are no FACTUAL evidence to clarify how many existed. We do know he killed Millions of ****, but there are only estimates on how many and how it affected the overall population.

Stalin was full of himself, and believe in his form of Communism. Pure communism will never work because of human nature, and Stalins communism was quite twisted. Russia became strong in some areas, and weak in others. I do however agree that the strength of the USSR was more of a cover, and was less actually strength as much as it was propaganda.

There is always going to be poverty, and illness in any country, human nature dictates such.
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