Who was worse: Adolph Hitler of Joseph Stalin?

[Seer]

Oh yeah, I know that giving up all of my posessions and turning them over to the collective sounds like a great idea on paper. Toilet paper. Stalin did give communism a bad name. Just like all the other brutal communist dictators--basically all of them. Not recognizing that stealing everyone's property requires a lot of horrible violence is a pretty basic blindness.

If there was a country somewhere where the people responded to government theft and strongarming with sweetness, light, and delicious submission, then communism wouldn't be regarded as such a nasty ideology. Not even in Belgium.

They were both incomprehensibly evil, but I'm going to say Stalin was worse--because people still have the temerity to say, to this day, that communism was a good idea (not referring to 1024, he just said it looked good on paper). How many people are walking around claiming that Naziism was just 'implemented poorly' and would be better next time? Far as I'm concerned, modern day communist sympathizers are no better than members of Neo-nazi groups. They're murderers in waiting.

[Mag]

Comparing Communism and Fascism (not Nazi-ism) is like comparing night and day, apples to oranges etc. Communism and Fascism are completely opposite ends of the spectrum.

[Ogge]

Stalin did only kill the one who was in the way for communism. Hitler killed for tehr race.., so hitler is the worst

[Glaynor]

Hitler is the attention whore of the evil psycotic dictator world.

By far, one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time. I don't think I have ever, ever, ever heard that bastage described in such a fashion.

[Firefly]

Originally Posted by Robot

they [...] helped restore economic status and stability to their respective countries.

Welcome to my ten-meter zone. The flak vests are under the seat beneath the kevlars.

Stalin was responsible for the regime that brought poverty, destitution, and oppression to his fellow citizens. Not just in Russia, but in every Soviet satellite country. The USSR's biggest economic status was its military. More like, producing equipment to make war. The soldiers themselves were severely underpaid, but they had clothes and a place to sleep and food to eat. Most of the Russian populace couldn't say that at one point in time or another.

Stability was enforced by the secret police and the military police. I wouldn't consider stability a place where you can be arrested and disappear forever. I wouldn't consider standing in line five hours to get toilet paper and bread as a stable, economically-awesome status.

Hitler was responsible for throwing the world- not just Europe- into upheaval. He is responsible for every single death, military and civilian, that came about as a result of ethnic cleansing and World War Two. Soldiers died at his command, or as a result of them. Soldiers died trying to protect their countries from the German war machine. German soldiers died because they thought they were entitled to some fanatical dream that a psychotic madman came up with. Hitler did NOTHING to restore economic status and stability to Germany. His army needed money for food and equipment and supplies. Who the fuck you think paid for that? Some magical cheat-code for unlimited resources? Go back to your cheat hacks and play some more Counter Strike.

Hitler starved his people and bled them dry so his soldiers could pursue the Third Reich and Aryan supremacy. That's not economic status restoration or stability. Where were you when Dresden was firebombed back to the Cro-magnon age? Do you realize the sheer expenditure of money required to put out the fires and rebuild, and care for the homeless and the injured? That was just one city.

Explain to me how a continent involved in brutal combat and occupation is stablility. Where did you grow up, in an abused home at the hands of gun freaks and raving psychos? That's the only way you could see any of those men as stable, because that would be all you know.

You are an idiot and a troll.

[Veteran]

There is no 'better or worse' reason to eradicate your fellow man. Stalin is worse because he not only killed more, but he killed those who served loyally in the fight to defeat Nazism.

He was a traitor by every definition of the word. May he burn in hell.

[OfaLoaf]

Hitler and Stalin...

Hitler was a fanatical German nationalist, who, when they lost WWI, snapped. Other people snapped, too, so they agreed with him. He then proceeded to commit genocide and bring the whole world to hell.

Stalin was a Commie.

[Veteran]

Your views are simplistic, OfaLoaf. Stalin was a totalitarianist and Hitler was a corporatist.

Study the words of Mussolini if you must understand the parallels between fascism and corporatism.

They are both sucking on Satan's schlong now, but when they lived, their miserable sycophant supporters thought they were just ducky.

[MrVicchio]

Originally Posted by AztecWarrior

NOTE: I'll be damned if this gets sent to the Political Debate forum.

In your opinion, which dictator was worse: German Chancellor/Fuhrer Adolph Hitler or Premier Joseph Stalin?

Damn him, this is political send it.

[SilverLord]

I vote for Hitler because he killed too many people for an irrelavent reason.

What are the numbers on both sides and I'm sorry but I forget who Stalin killed and for what reason...could anyone tell me?

[OfaLoaf]

Stalin's Kill list (as I remember it):
**** while he was allied with Hitler
Political opponents
Hungarians (?)
Angry masses

[Jaged]

Originally Posted by Veteran

There is no 'better or worse' reason to eradicate your fellow man.

Wrong, would you consider putting a mass murder to death no better or worse then the murder an innocent person? Now I am not saying that eiter of these two bastards had a better reason then the other, but it would be possible.

[Firefly]

When you take the life of others, others being innocent people, you have no right to call yourself "fellow man". You are subhuman, you are a sick animal and you need to be put down.

Mass murderers do not count as mankind, nor are they even remotely human.

[Lonehunter]

Some of you may remember an OLD old thread of mine that was simliar to this, almost got me banned.

[worldvengence]

Originally Posted by Ogge

Stalin did only kill the one who was in the way for communism. Hitler killed for tehr race.., so hitler is the worst

Where do u get ur information from? ... Stalin killed completely random people, not just ones that opposed communism, they would force false confessions out of them for pety theft, then execute them.