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Old 2004-05-05, 05:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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First the bubbles and now Squeeky?

What the hell is going on around here?

BTW, yes, Squeeky was one of the main draws to this website. You'll notice the Lounge is usually more populated than Game Discussion, and Squeeky's links and antics were a big part of that.

Maybe he was too charismatic? Character assassination is pretty low.

I'm still hoping this is a hoax.
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Old 2004-05-05, 05:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally Posted by Octavian
I've signed it, don't know why. At least he was never mean to me.
You REALLY dont remeber him making fun of you?
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Old 2004-05-05, 05:34 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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Originally Posted by SDM
Now, with that being said, who would like to touch my wien0r?
Me!
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Old 2004-05-05, 07:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Old 2004-05-05, 07:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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WTF? Someone tell me what exactly happened. When and why was Squeeky banned?????

He was just on the boards yesterday right?
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Old 2004-05-05, 08:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #36
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He made a total ass of himself, as usual, but this time insulted Hamma and PSU in general
Check the EQ2 beta thread
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Old 2004-05-05, 08:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #37
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hmmmmm... i see

Well maybe there will be less Canada bashing now that he's gone.
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Old 2004-05-05, 08:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #38
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Originally Posted by Veteran
First the bubbles and now Squeeky?

What the hell is going on around here?

BTW, yes, Squeeky was one of the main draws to this website. You'll notice the Lounge is usually more populated than Game Discussion, and Squeeky's links and antics were a big part of that.

Maybe he was too charismatic? Character assassination is pretty low.

I'm still hoping this is a hoax.
You people must not hang out in IRC much, or actually read his posts, other than the links he posts, or just have a general short term memory?
He was NOT charismatic, he was an immature spaz with a need for attention. What was the draw to him for so many of you? His flamboyant nature? His apparently uncaring nature for the welfare of others? Whatever it was, by making him your idol for being an asshat, it can only lead me to assume that you too, are an asshat.

As to why there is a bigger draw to the Lounge, well, it's probably due to the fact many of the older, and some of the newer, PSU member have since stopped playing Planetside, but still keeps in touch with the community, and the most effective way to do so, would be posting in the Lounge.

He was Dishonorably Discharged from CDL, he was kicked out of staff(note: He was in charge of a PSU newsletter that I've only seen once or twice sent to my email when he held the office), and now he is gone from PSU. Sign a petition? I'll pass.
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Old 2004-05-05, 09:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Squeeky seems nice a nice guy be some maturity is clearly needed. He would often spam (I hate spam - every rant of mine ever was about it); he would post O F N for every link that he didn't put up; he would often hi-jack threads (especially when UV while was still around); he would insult people who disagreed with him and he was a gigantic attention whore. I thought for the longest time that I was the only one who felt this way, but apparently not.

On the other side, he was an interesting person who did have some of the funniest links and some of the funnier comments that I've seen in a long time. I hope that he gets some perspective and realizes that the computer world is not the be all and end all of everything and grows up a little. Once he does that I think he would once again be a valuable asset to the community.
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Old 2004-05-05, 09:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #40
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I am only posting in here to defend PSU and its staff. I will not go into personal opinion in this post.

Please be aware that squeeky was not banned for insulting hamma. After being a moderator on these forums for the length of time I have, you come to learn that Hamma really a very lenient guy. We do not censor posts here at PSU (even though I have made a few bad decisisons in my anger towards squeeky sometimes). That means, people can speak as freely as they wish and say whatever they want (without taking it too far) and the staff will let it be.

The ban yesterday was affected in little part by the post squeeky made in the EQ2 beta thread. This ban was a long time coming, and squeeky just pushed Hamma past the line. In no way did he (hamma) ever censor squeeky or revoke his 'free speech' like he (squeeky) said he (hamma) did. It was me that edited some of squeeky's posts (the ones where he claimed my brother had Downs Syndrome (which he doesn't)). I was reprimanded for it. Don't let squeeky convince you that he is the victim here. That's what he always tries to do when he gets in trouble.

I've probably already said more than I should've.
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Old 2004-05-05, 09:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #41
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The freedom fo speech has its limits. A person can easily be sued for libel and slander when they make comments that are known to be untrue, done so with malice, and when the community will not know they are untrue. That is the general definition I remember from law school off of the top of my head.

With that in mind Squeeky's comments about Strygun's brother would NOT fall under the freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is NOT absolute - especially on private forums. There is no need to worry about Squeeky's freedoms and how they were infringed on by Strygun.
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Old 2004-05-05, 09:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Originally Posted by Glaynor
The freedom fo speech has its limits. A person can easily be sued for libel and slander when they make comments that are known to be untrue, done so with malice, and when the community will not know they are untrue. That is the general definition I remember from law school off of the top of my head.

With that in mind Squeeky's comments about Strygun's brother would NOT fall under the freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is NOT absolute - especially on private forums. There is no need to worry about Squeeky's freedoms and how they were infringed on by Strygun.
what about defamation of character?
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Old 2004-05-05, 09:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #43
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller
what about defamation of character?

Defamation is a part of both libel and slander. Defamation is the product from libel and slander. To defame someone is, in a nutshell, to insult someone with malicious intent. How do you insult someone? That is done through the spoken word or the written word. If it is done through the spoken word that is slander. If it is done through the written word that is libel
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Old 2004-05-05, 09:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #44
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I have no problem with Squeeky but I will not sigh the petition. Hamma had his reasons and i stand behind him in them...Squeeky yes was a part of the community but there is a limit to how far anyone can push . Hamma's made his disision and I respect that.
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Old 2004-05-05, 09:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Squeeky can be an ass, but I dont think what he did earned a ban, much less a 2yr Ban at that. I also dont know if what he said was true, but Im going to go out on a limb here and assume everyone told the truth.

Originally Posted by Squeeky
He edits my posts, he fucks with my channels, he posts my full name, address, and apartment complex in public domain, and he bans me from IRC for no reason. I could give a flying fuck what you're "sick of", because quite frankly i'm sick of Strygun being a complete fucking prick, and watching him throw his weight around unfairly.
If that is true, then I think Hamma is wrong to have banned Squeeky on the basis of defending himself. Someone posts my address and I'll have their ass, but Squeek settled for subtle pokes here and there.

And all Squeeky did was call a somewhat clever "BS Flag" on Stry on his post. Granted their was a general insult wrapped in there, but nothing that shouldnt have been handled via PMs and maybe a week long ban, if a ban at all. Hell I have made worse comments towards other people before, for much less than this.

Squeeky is an interesting part of this community, perhaps not a vital part, and not always a good part, but still a part that I feel deep down the general community will miss. And no one can argue, that if someone like me disappears for a month or so, no one really notices (save a few), but someone like Squeeky is gone for good, the community has yet to know if this is good or bad.

I also do not use the IRC chat, so mine is a limited viewpoint.
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