Surgile

[Lartnev]

I think they're equal damage but the sweeper has a tighter spread.

[Doppler]

Forgive me for the paraphrase.

Originally Posted by juggalokilla

Wah! I have no skil, so for "balance" i not only want greater range but i also want "in yo face" insta-kill

First off since your tank 1 shots people, you do have somethign that instant kills (its not "gibs" because no body parts fly, this is a T for Teen game.

Second off you get forced to "eat away with lashers and mcgs at all distances." Thats just the smart thign to do, if had a guy coming at me with a shotgun, and could kill him from the tower wall with the MCG, or kill him while he hides behind a tree with the lasher, i'd do it in a second. Say it with me, the primary fire on a jackhammer is comparable to the sweeper save it has a larger rate of fire, besides i did some checking, a TTK of .9 seconds on an agile at point blank with the MCG and 1.4 on a rexo is not half bad for the MCG which will eat a jackhammer user at range.

Basicly all your little "alternate fire" scenario are mostly just a replacement for lack of skill on your part. If we gave jacks and lashers instant kill in addition to all their other qualities that whould hardly be balanced now whould it, but obviously that doesnt come into play with your "teh are nerfing mah l33t skilz" mentality.

[Rbstr]

I agree Surgile nerf owned, but i stil htink that MA shoudl still be allowed out

[juggalokilla]

I never noticed the prowler was i shot kill. dont use it too often, apologies to you. My ideas where only to attempt a balance by giving all empires the same ability of their HA. I didnt want an mcg secondary that could insta-kill at 10 meters, just at face to face. I have changed my mind about it though. I thought more on it and agree though when an mcg user runs into a jackhammer user, by the time the jackhammer is at an effective range, mcg has wore 30-50% of his health armor so they need that power to compensate when they finally can engage the mcg user.

It would be a little screwed up to have an mcg user run at you, use say40 rounds, have you at half health then secondary you dead before you could attempt to do any damage to them. I played my nc against tr on morkov to compare the style before i went any further. I guess ill just stay happy with a locker of jackhammers and maelstroms to give my Ha love some variation.I was just irritated after a day of fighting where over half my deaths where one shot kills from thunders, vanguards, jackhammers, and auroras.

I feel better now. All except doppler's comment on my "lack of skill". Pretty fu$#ed up. Have you seen me on the field? Probably not. Come play nc/vs on emerald, I'll see you at my 20 meters with my rexo/mcg/striker/psheild and will be eating away at your face.