iPod vs. Digital Camera

[Infernus]

Originally Posted by Jaged

How cares who made it as long as it is a superior product. I am running windows and I hate ms. (Not saying windows is superior in any way, just more games.)

The iRiver is superior by far... in that it doesn't suck...


no really... it is much better.

[Jaged]

Explain.

[EineBeBoP]

http://iriveramerica.com/products/H120.aspx
Thats the one I got
Features:

• Plays over 600 hours of digital music
• Up to 16 hours of battery life
• Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV and OGG music files
• Ultra-fast USB 2.0 transfers (up to 40 times faster than USB 1.0)
• Integrated FM tuner
• Backlit remote control with 4-line display
• Built-in voice recorder
• Intuitive music navigation
• Real-time MP3 encoding (no PC required)
• 20GB of internal storage
• Store or transfer files of any type
• Extra-large, 8-line, backlit LCD
• Rechargeable Lithium Polymer battery
• Optical input and output
• Upgradeable to future formats and features

So, built in mic (for recording notes / recording lectures in class {ive done this before})
built in FM tuner (BIG deal for me)
plays OGG files
backlit remote thats shows song info comes with the iriver free
dosent need firewire
can be plugged into any Win PC, and (tho im not 100% sure) macs as well (dont need 2 versions)
upgradeable (not hardware, but software.)
can record optical in
4 more hours battery life

comes with a buncha shit

Backlit remote control with 4-line display
iRiver earphones
Carrying case
Installation software CD
AC adapter
USB 2.0 cable
Line-in cable
External microphone
Printed user manual



While it certainly isn't as pretty as an iPod, it easily dwarfs it in features.
I like to call the iPod "iRiver's slutty little sister that everyone wants to get with"


Im certainly not saying that the iPod is bad. Not at all. its a great product (tho put out by a horrible company). I jsut think that the iRiver is a BETTER product and you should at least consider it.

[Derfud]

Hag, sluttly little sister, thats great.

Anyways. I recently found out you can save .txt files to your iRiver also, and read them on the screen. Plus the remote is quite handy. The leather protection case actually has a belt loop on it so you can attach it to your belt. Not to mention you can enable the optical out jack and hook up a second set of headphones if someone else wants to listen too. Cant forget about the WOW equalisation, god it rules.

[EineBeBoP]

Yep. I read many-a-PS fanfic in my ASL class that way

[Heavygain]

Ipod. I got a ipod and a camcorder. me and my friends have so much shit on film that i could go for juvie for, but my ipod is just..... fabulas.

[EineBeBoP]

Heavy, go convince a friend to buy an iRiver.
then borrow it for a day or 2.

then weep as you realize how much it pwns teh iPod. ( I typo'd iPos)

[Heavygain]

Nah, my parents are fucking poor lol, they just got the ipod for me cause its also a combination of my b-day present and my surgery shit.

EDIT: They arent poor, but they arent rich.

[Jaged]

Originally Posted by EineBeBoP

Features:

• Plays over 600 hours of digital music So does the ipod.
• Up to 16 hours of battery life 4 more then ipd, i have to give you that.
• Supports MP3, WMA, ASF, WAV and OGG music files So does the ipod.
• Ultra-fast USB 2.0 transfers (up to 40 times faster than USB 1.0) The new 4th gen ipods ome with USB 2.0 and firewire in the box.
• Integrated FM tuner You can get an add on for the ipod if you really care about that.
• Backlit remote control with 4-line display Ipod has a remote, but no screen.
• Built-in voice recorder Again, Ipod has it in an add on pack.
• Intuitive music navigation Cmon, ipod invented this. You can't argue with its scroll wheel.
• Real-time MP3 encoding (no PC required) I don't know what this is so i cant talk about it.
• 20GB of internal storage Ipod has 40 and 20 gig modles
• Store or transfer files of any type Ipod did this first.
• Extra-large, 8-line, backlit LCD Ipod has a better display.
• Rechargeable Lithium Polymer battery Ipod has it.
• Optical input and output Why do you need it when you have usb 2.0?
• Upgradeable to future formats and features YOu bet your ass ipod has this.

I will admit the ipod's list of features is slightly inferior. That is not the ipods strong point. What it lacks there it makes up for in beauty and joy of use. Go to a store and play with an ipod and an iriver for a few min and you will start to see why its worth it.

[EineBeBoP]

I've played with corrs plenty, thanks. Ill take my iriver any day.

how it looks just isnt that important to me.

add ons cost money. and you cant buy a "pack" of them, so its prolly around $20 each (just a guess, based on nothing) item.


Real time encoding, and input/output means that you can hook up a friends music device, and record straight to the HD. I've copied a song I liked off a friends CD player before that way. iriver comes in 40gb too. The lights on the displays themselves are pretty much equal (tho i often find myself blinded by the iriver light late at night) I prefer the actual information shown on the display better however. We all know what the ipod battery has been accused of (ipodsdirtylittlesecret.com or whatever), and so far the iriver has had no problems like that (of corse it hasnt been out as long, but still...)

iriver needs that program (itunes?) to transfer files back and forth. the iriver is basicly an external HD when its plugged in. I ALWAYS use it to back up files when I format.
its as simple as plug in - drag and drop - unplug - format - plug in - drag and drop again, and im done. the ipod would need drivers from itunes if Im correct.

ipod does upgrade its software, but theyd rather you bought the "next generation" ipod, instead of putting these updates out every few months.


Another thing, Corr's ipod broke a LONG TIME AGO. At least 2 months. (it was at the end of school corr, remember how you could listen to K&B with me at PE once you borrowed my cd player?) He sent it to Apple to have it repaired, and still hasnt gotten it back. What kind of company makes you wait Months for a repair?


another thing Jag, have YOU ever tryed an iriver? take your own advice and borrow one. just trying it for 5 min, youll get lost and confused. the iriver is a bit more complicated, but makes up for it with what you can do. took me about a day and a half to really learn how to use it.

The iriver certainly isnt for everyone. But i think that anyone here with half a brain will keep an open mind when looking for a mp3 player. Especially when your (or someone else) is going to spend $300 on this thing.


edit:

Originally Posted by Heavygain

Nah, my parents are fucking poor lol, they just got the ipod for me cause its also a combination of my b-day present and my surgery shit.

EDIT: They arent poor, but they arent rich.

thats it? I had 2 birthdays, 1 hanukkah, and a "congrats on good grades" gifts saved up, and this counted as all of them.

It was EASILY worth it tho. I'm pretty much attached to my IR at the ... well at the pocket. ( Hell, I took the damn thing with me when me and corr went to a water park)

[Indecisive]

The key words here, is that shit comes standard.

If I was to blow insane amounts of money on a music player, I would definatly go for the iriver.

But, im not insane, so ill upgrade my computer with the money instead

[Jaged]

Hmm, that direct music transfer thing sounds cool. So do you just plug the iriver into a cd player and take the songs right off of it? I assume it comes with a cable with 2 male connectors for that. The iriver may not be so bad after all.

[EineBeBoP]

It dosent transfer the input as data. You basicly hit play on the cd player, stick one end of the cable into the headphone jack, and the other end into the digital in. it then records whatever comes in. Takes a bit, but nice feature to have.

[Jaged]

thats really cool

[martyr]

i use my digicam more than any music anything - it's always in my pocket. (canon powershot s200 "digital elph")