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Old 2004-10-13, 10:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #31
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BPS? Why can't paintballers use BPM so I can compare it with real guns.
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally Posted by Peacemaker
I dont like angels for the simple reason that they are full auto. In non tournies any nub can rip at 20 bps. Its kinda retarded. Also I dislike the whole fad thing like everyone else.

I have my Matrix just like Ivan... the whole issue is that the Trix is now the fad gun.
The only full auto angels are the old LCDs and G-chipped angels(Only fit 90* frames) I believe...
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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Originally Posted by AztecWarrior
BPS? Why can't paintballers use BPM so I can compare it with real guns.
stop being dumb and just multiply it by 60

hydralisk: yea, but you can get a something called a ripdrive (or something) that lets you shoot slightly more balls then trigger pulls. for example, if youre shooting 12bps, the gun will actually fire 14 bps, and so on.
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Originally Posted by JetRaiden
WGP still makes the Sniper, an awesome stock gun I guess...

Technically that isn�t a �stock class� gun. Stock Class is a gun that has a parallel with the barrel 10 ball tube feed and can only take the 12 gram c02 carts, and of course the pump.
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Originally Posted by JetRaiden
stop being dumb and just multiply it by 60
I don't want to.
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Originally Posted by Ivan
Technically that isn�t a �stock class� gun. Stock Class is a gun that has a parallel with the barrel 10 ball tube feed and can only take the 12 gram c02 carts, and of course the pump.
true, but its the closest thing to it thats still in production.

edit: for aztec- my hopper feeds at 1,080 bpm, which is *about the same speed I shoot

that angel can probably reach about 1,800 bpm, while mine (in its current condition) reaches about 1,500


is that better?

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Old 2004-10-13, 10:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Check out the list, still a lot in production.

http://www.stockclasspaintball.com/markers/
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #38
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jesus christ.

still stock is a dying breed. but I do give those guys alot of credit, they are really, really hardcore.
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Originally Posted by JetRaiden
stop being dumb and just multiply it by 60

hydralisk: yea, but you can get a something called a ripdrive (or something) that lets you shoot slightly more balls then trigger pulls. for example, if youre shooting 12bps, the gun will actually fire 14 bps, and so on.
Umm, RipDrive is a modification for the Halo that allows you to manually crank the balls out of your hopper when it runs out of batteries... No such thing for an angel..

Originally Posted by JetRaiden
true, but its the closest thing to it thats still in production.

edit: for aztec- my hopper feeds at 1,080 bpm, which is *about the same speed I shoot

that angel can probably reach about 1,800 bpm, while mine (in its current condition) reaches about 1,500


is that better?
I'm not trying to be an asshole, but shooting 1080 bpm would be incredibly hard. It is tough to reach 18 bps without a ton of practice(without bounce), and you would be refilling your egg 5 times in one minute. Sustaining 18 for a whole minute is next to impossible without illegal trigger bounce...
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #40
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Personaly Id prefer that stock was the only gun around. That would be sweet, I hate playing speedball anymore when these kids go out on the field with a case in guppys and comes back after 1 game with none left. The moment you start to move a 100 balls fly right at you. Its really no skill anymore, just who has more money. Stock takes skill and paitence(sp?)
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Originally Posted by Hydralisk
Umm, RipDrive is a modification for the Halo that allows you to manually crank the balls out of your hopper when it runs out of batteries... No such thing for an angel...
Indeed, though I have heard of cheat boards for the Angle and numerous other guns.

And according to Smart Parts, Their gun has a manufacturing flaw that sometimes allows the guns to shoot hot. One of there teams got disqualified cause their shockers where shooting hot and they said something like that in a Press release.

So basically they tried to say it wasn�t the team that was cheating it was the gun�s fault and it just part of the gun�
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Originally Posted by firecrackerNC
Personaly Id prefer that stock was the only gun around. That would be sweet, I hate playing speedball anymore when these kids go out on the field with a case in guppys and comes back after 1 game with none left. The moment you start to move a 100 balls fly right at you. Its really no skill anymore, just who has more money. Stock takes skill and paitence(sp?)
Very true. It is even effecting tourny games. There are rumors going around that some tourny owners might start putting a cap on BPS in their tournies.
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #43
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Originally Posted by Ivan
Very true. It is even effecting tourny games. There are rumors going around that some tourny owners might start putting a cap on BPS in their tournies.
I wouldn't mind it. I'm not a paint whore. I don't shoot more than 350-400 paintballs a game even in tournaments...
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #44
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I think a nice 16 to 18 bps cap would be right.
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Old 2004-10-13, 10:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Originally Posted by Hydralisk
Umm, RipDrive is a modification for the Halo that allows you to manually crank the balls out of your hopper when it runs out of batteries... No such thing for an angel..


I'm not trying to be an asshole, but shooting 1080 bpm would be incredibly hard. It is tough to reach 18 bps without a ton of practice(without bounce), and you would be refilling your egg 5 times in one minute. Sustaining 18 for a whole minute is next to impossible without illegal trigger bounce...
I practice walking my trigger all day, every day. I know you couldnt get 18 bps for a minute straight, its impossible, but Im just saying that because 18 bps x 60= 1080 bpm.

eh, I got terms mixed up.


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