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[ChewyLSB]

Originally Posted by Triggar

What most people who are for the assault weapons ban don't realise is that the AWB doesn't actually ban anything good. It bans things that make your gun more pretty.

Exactly! The five things that can make your gun "bannable" do very little, in fact, they don't do ANYTHING. That's why I hate the AWB so much...

[Infernus]

Triggar I wanna take this test Frog speaks of... get on IRC.

[Fragmatic]

Originally Posted by Infernus

Triggar I wanna take this test Frog speaks of... get on IRC.

me too!!!!!

[Infernus]

Upon Triggar's personality assessment. Bersa Thunder 380.

[martyr]

those are superb weapons - and trig would know.

divx: triggar & bersa thunder

[Infernus]

Cools... nice vid.

[Mr1337Duck]

I like how the assault weapons ban gets angry at you for having a bayonet on your gun. There's only two things you need a bayonet for:

A)You're out of ammo
B)You can't reload fast enough.


A)Umm... you have alternatives. If it's a home defense thing, pool stick + some good strong tape + kitchen knife, or at least some scissors = spear. They won't be doing too much robbing when you run 'em through with that SoaB. Or a sword, or a knife. No reason to incur the wrath of the AWB when it existed when you have some simple alternatives.
B)I'd rather take my chances on ducking behind cover and reloading over rushing somebody with a bayonet if they're shooting at you.

[ChewyLSB]

Pretty much ANYTHING on the Assault Weapon Ban's list is ridiculous.

1) Bayonet

What the HELL are you going to do with a bayone.t Seriously. How many bayonet murders have there been in the 10 years preceding the Assault Weapons Ban?

2) Grenade Launcher

Hello? 1936 National Firearms Act anyone?

3) Flash Suppressor

This only reduces the flash for the USER, it doesn't do anything to anyone looking at the gun.

4) Folding Stock

There are already laws in place that, even if a gun has a folding stock, the barrel has to be protruding a certain distance out.

5) Pistol Grip

What kind of guns have this? Very few.

[AztecWarrior]

Originally Posted by Triggar

If a serial rapist broke into your house, legally speaking, in order to shoot him, it has to be in the front of his body, preferably one of his apendages (to neutralize him, not to kill him), and he had to have threatened to harm you or someone in the house first, and you had to make an attempt to get out of the house first.

I'm sure this is easy to remember in a panic, esp. when he's threatening to kill your family with a knife.

[JetRaiden]

anyone see that video where they talk about drive by bayonetings? I think it was posted here a while ago.

[Infernus]

Originally Posted by JetRaiden

anyone see that video where they talk about drive by bayonetings? I think it was posted here a while ago.

I remember that

[Triggar]

Originally Posted by JetRaiden

anyone see that video where they talk about drive by bayonetings? I think it was posted here a while ago.

Excessive Force = Spending time in jail, ruining my future

vs.

Trying to get the hell out of there?

I'd rather someone break in, take what they want (homeowner's insurance for the win) and then leave instead of hanging around and looking for an excuse to shoot someone.

[Infernus]

Can drive by bayonetting be considered jousting?

[Mr1337Duck]

Originally Posted by Triggar

I'd rather someone break in, take what they want (homeowner's insurance for the win) and then leave instead of hanging around and looking for an excuse to shoot someone.

I live in Topeka, KS, which has a pretty good crime rate, despite the attempts by the cops to fiddle with numbers to cover it up rather than go and fix it. I've heard about plenty of people who get killed or injured by intruders in my city. When he comes into your house, you give him no benefit of doubt. The worst thing you can do in that kind of situation is assign the intruder your own sense of morality.


Beyond that, you say you should give him what he wants, rather than defend it. He doesn't deserve that stuff, and when he encounters no resistence, you only encourage him to repeat the act, or perhaps go even further, emboldened by your lack of resistance. What you should do in the event of home intrusion, when they kick down one of your doors or break a window or whatever:

A)Locate a weapon, any weapon, like a knife or a firearm, the latter being preferred.
B)Wait in room off to the side of a hallway or whatever, a dark room, preferrably, so as to catch them by suprise.
C)When they walk by or enter, draw your weapon and demand that they leave.
D)If they leave, well and good, watch them as they leave, so they don't try to turn around at the corner and come back. If they attempt to draw a weapon or begin moving towards you, open fire or attack with the previously mentioned makeshift spear, knife, etc. Continue attacking until they are incapacitated, dead or alive.
E)Call 911

One thing not to do if they catch you unarmed is to allow yourself to be bound and gagged. This goes into not giving the criminal your sense of morality. They may decide to shoot you in the back of the head or slit your throat, or rape you if you're a woman. No thank you. Run away if you're in that situation. Do ANYTHING to escape from that kind of situation, because at that point they've got you at a MASSIVE disadvantage. If you have to gouge their eyes out, kick them in the balls, take a big bite out of their neck, whatever, it doesn't matter. You just get out.
*Note, you could attempt fighting unarmed, but unless you have serious martial arts training, it wouldn't be recommended. Hell, even if you did have it it's not hugely recommended.



And that is the Mr1337Duck opinion on self defense.

[Triggar]

Here's my take on this:

My TV vs. the life of my boyfriend

If I can't get out, or if the intruder has anything within reach that can be used to hurt me or John, I will shoot them.

If the intruder is some teenage kid with my stereo in his hand, running away to get out, I'm not shooting him in the back and spending the next 10+ years in jail.

If the intruder is some big guy with a ski mask on, carrying a crowbar, I will shoot him.

I am not compromising my "morality" - killing in self-defense isn't something that will get me excommunicated - and I am not 'emboldening' anyone. Stuff can be replaced, I know, I've lost everything I owned in a housefire. If there is a threat to me or my boyfriend, I will shoot first to neutralize. If they are undeterred, I will shoot to kill.