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View Poll Results: Which car should Martyr and Trigger get?
Volkswagen Jetta 30 88.24%
Volkswagen Beetle 4 11.76%
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Old 2004-12-06, 01:19 AM   [Ignore Me] #46
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I love my bird, but I wouldn't recommend them. already had to have the transmission worked on. not to mention the electrical problems these cars have. however. those new grand ams (or are they grand prix?) whatever are nice as hell, and fast too!
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Old 2004-12-06, 01:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #47
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Originally Posted by OneManArmy
I love my bird, but I wouldn't recommend them. already had to have the transmission worked on. not to mention the electrical problems these cars have. however. those new grand ams (or are they grand prix?) whatever are nice as hell, and fast too!
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Old 2004-12-06, 02:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #48
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http://www.topgear.com/content/featu...urvey_2003/01/
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Old 2004-12-06, 02:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #49
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Originally Posted by Triggar
Okay, this just in.

The guy I worked with tonight had HORROR stories about VW's. He said after one year, his Jetta's clutch was shot, two tires were shot (and couldn't be replaced with just any ole' tire, they had to be replaced with expensive ones), the electrical system went to shit, and the motors controlling the power windows went to hell.

Yeah, so back to the drawing board.

The guy who was telling me about Jetta's recommended the Toyota Scion brand, so we'll look at those tonight.

Bleedin' hell it's hard to buy a car!
Thanks for listening to me who also owns that model car for two years and never had one problem..oh well Jetta is the American version...heh

oh ya and martyr this is from the Top Gear site:

16. Volkswagen Bora - 79.5 - 79

thats a good score in case u didn't know, highest is 100 in score, then on the right voerall rankins of the top 100 best family cars.

Triggar your making WAAAYY too much of this, your going with what everyone says etc, everyone has their opinions and when u ask so many people its obvious the opinions will conflic,. your making it harder on yourself, just test drive any cars you can afford and buy the one you enjoy most driving/gives you nice value for money petrol wise, etc and that U know won;t fall apart, brand histories are easy to find out in quality and stuff on the new anyway, places like Top Gear always mention them, dunno about American brand cars.

But ya, when my dad went to buy his he test drove everything, like Mazdas and Fords and Peugeut and all of thtat and he liked what the VW had to offer, after all a car is really about what U like about it, not what others think of the company that makes it.

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Old 2004-12-06, 03:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #50
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If you want reliability as a main factor, may I suggest -

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VOLVO!
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Old 2004-12-06, 03:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Originally Posted by Fragmatic
If you want reliability as a main factor, may I suggest -

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VOLVO!

"Volvo. Ugly as fuck, but it's safe."
"Volvo. Ugly as fuck, but it'll get ya there."
"Volvo. Looks like shit, but drives like... shit. Did we mention it's safe?"
"Volvo. It's okay that you drive one, since it's your mom's"
"Volvo. If you get in a wreck, you'll only be maimed, not killed."
"Volvo. HEY SAFE!"
"Volvo. No, you can't pimp them out."
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Old 2004-12-06, 05:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #52
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Originally Posted by oddfish
"Volvo. Ugly as fuck, but it's safe."
"Volvo. Ugly as fuck, but it'll get ya there."
"Volvo. Looks like shit, but drives like... shit. Did we mention it's safe?"
"Volvo. It's okay that you drive one, since it's your mom's"
"Volvo. If you get in a wreck, you'll only be maimed, not killed."
"Volvo. HEY SAFE!"
"Volvo. No, you can't pimp them out."
Newer Volvos are nice looking, have decent handling, are powerful (mmmm, Garrett T5 turbochargers), pimpable and safe.

Pwned.
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Old 2004-12-06, 05:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #53
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Old 2004-12-06, 07:50 AM   [Ignore Me] #54
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Old 2004-12-06, 08:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #55
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Jetta is the only way to go...My parents just bought a New one and love it
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Old 2004-12-06, 09:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #56
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If you buy a Scion I am going to have to revoke your mod privs.



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Old 2004-12-06, 10:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #57
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Originally Posted by Hamma
If you buy a Scion I am going to have to revoke your mod privs.



Seriously. First a Jetta, now a Scion?

God damn, i'd literally, without hesitation, SLAP any family member or friend thinking of buying either or. Hell I feel like going to the VW dealership and kicking everyone in the teeth thinking of buying one of those junkers.

Dont throw you hard earned money Trig/Mart. Get a Mini .
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Old 2004-12-06, 10:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #58
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I'll sell you guys my car if you want. It's a high performance car.

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Old 2004-12-06, 11:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #59
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With all those stickers, you got at least 500hp extra
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Old 2004-12-06, 11:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #60
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And I took the two back doors off to reduce weight and drag.
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