PlanetSide Next Galaxy

[EVILoHOMER]

Originally Posted by Raymac

AWESOME!!

Yeah, so my excitement is starting to get uncontrollable here. This is getting better and better as time goes on, and my worries about it coming out too soon are quickly fading away. Right now, it can't release soon enough.

Also, I've seen people complaining about the graphics style....just shut up already. Everyone, please raise your hand if you started playing Planetside because of its graphics style....anyone?.....anyone?....Bueller?.....Yeah, I didn't think so.

Honestly, how many of us turned the graphics setttings to the bare minimum just to increase fps? Pretty much everyone? Yeah, thats what I thought.

We ALL started playing this game because of the uniquely epic gameplay. Thats what we want in PS2, thats what it looks like we are going to get, so the cool graphics we are getting teases of is really just icing on the cake.

Really who turned graphics on Min? The game looked horrible.

My

9800pro 256mb
1Gb ram
Amd FX53

Could easily max out the game and it didn't even cost very much. Now we all have at least Geforce 460s or ATI 5850's, quad cores, 4gb ram etc etc.

If you don't even have that system then go out and buy one cause they cost pennies.

[Manitou]

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

Had enough this is me out, what a joke.

Bye!

[Sifer2]

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

Really who turned graphics on Min? The game looked horrible.

My

9800pro 256mb
1Gb ram
Amd FX53

Could easily max out the game and it didn't even cost very much. Now we all have at least Geforce 460s or ATI 5850's, quad cores, 4gb ram etc etc.

If you don't even have that system then go out and buy one cause they cost pennies.

I am afraid your idea of we is tragically mistaken. The average consumer does not have a computer with the parts you list. If they did Crysis 2 wouldn't be a visual downgrade an mostly focusing on consoles. Aside from Piracy the second biggest issue facing PC gaming is people not having the specs to run games.

Now you take a game like this one where the computer has to handle hundreds of people/vehicles at once. They would be incredibly foolish to make the game focused on state of the art graphics. As the vast majority could not run it at good fps. Hell its probably why they lowered the pop caps in the original Planetside. If for one will gladly trade some eye candy for bigger battles. If I want eye candy an only 30 player battles i'll go play something else.

[2coolforu]

A quickly annoted Galaxy to see what we can gleam from it



To evil homer

1) Make a game which can support 500 player online battles on an average rig that has the graphics of Crysis and you can claim your billions of dollars in the tech industry today. Stop being an internet tough guy.

2) It's ripped straight from the modelling program, no shaders, no filters, no visual effects. I'm not surprised it looks tip top.

3) I play on a pretty frigging hardcore rig and haven't played Planetside properly in years. I'm not a fanboy but I know that Planetside was my best game of all time, I'm not going to get worked up over a sequel for nothing. Hell look at Star Wars - The Old Republic. I played in the closed beta, there's been barely any news and barely any publicity and its looking brilliant and its a damned BIOWARE game, they aren't gonna release proper footage until the game looks its best. The Alpha testers are saying April at the earliest, I wouldn't expect gameplay footage for another 2 months at least, you clearly have no knowledge of videogame graphics or computer hardware.

4) This has been done to death, look in the vanguard pic thread. The graphics are as good as, if not better than Bad Company 2. Model detail is about the same.

/over

Just to kill this dead heres a Bad Company 2 AH-64 which has all the fancy Occlusion, SSAO, Post processing, Anti Aliasing, Lighting and other crap that gets added ingame by the engine and it looks worse imho than the galaxy



I'm a graphics enthusiast and I have an enthusiast system. These aren't bad graphics.

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

It looks horrible, I don't know how anyone can be excited.

Look, you've been very vocal about your dislike for what you've seen so far. Fine, we get it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But I'll just reiterate what I said before. I don't think anyone started playing Planetside because of the graphics. It's all about the gameplay. Now, if the technology was out there to make a game that had the graphics of like L.A. Noire, with hundreds of people playing pvp on large persistant worlds...well sign me up for that game.

Until that day comes, guess what guy? You're going to have to sacrifice graphics for performance. So there are alot of beautiful looking games coming out this year for you to enjoy. The rest of us here will be loving our gigantic Planetside 2 battles.

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

Now we all have at least Geforce 460s or ATI 5850's, quad cores, 4gb ram etc etc.

If you don't even have that system then go out and buy one cause they cost pennies.

OK. If it wasn't official before, it should be now...quit being a troll, buddy.

I just upgraded my CPU to an AMD PhenomII x4...it didn't cost pennies even on newegg, and neither does a Geforce 460. Now, I don't know, maybe you are Oprah rich, but what you just said reeks of troll.

You want a pure eye-candy game, there's a bunch for ya, and a bunch more coming out. The rest of us are going to enjoy the upgraded graphics and the same huge epic gameplay.

[2coolforu]

Also homer, you are demonstrably wrong.

How about a mass survey of 30 million + gamers

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Average CPU is a 2.3 Ghz dual core (55% dual core, 30% 2.3-2.6ghz processor).

Most common GPU's are a HD 4800 (Relatively dated), GT 8800 (Very dated) GT 9800 (Not so bad) 5700 (Pretty poor gpu)

average system RAM is pretty evenly split between 3-4 GB

A quick look shows the GTX 460 to be 1% of the gaming population. VAST MAJORITY!

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by 2coolforu

A quickly annoted Galaxy to see what we can gleam from it

Cool work on those pics. I have a question for you. Whats your take on what looks like guns on the sides of the new Galaxy? They look small, almost like anteannas, but they seem to be on both sides, and in the same spot as the old side guns. Think they are guns as well?

[2coolforu]

Personally they look more like radio/antennas rather than guns since they don't have the rubber housing that lets them turn; they are just kinda jammed on there.

From what I can see I'm going with antenna/random pokey thing.

[Westy543]

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

The textures are all smudged and I can even see jaggies.....

3DS Max doesn't render AA in real time as you model something.

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

Had enough this is me out, what a joke.

Good riddance.

re: 2coolforu:
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The radar pod on top is actually US design; it's an AN/APG-78 Longbow FCR (Fire Control Radar). It helps the Apache Longbow variant fire munitions from beyond visual range.

Originally Posted by http://www.es.northropgrumman.com/solutions/longbowradar/

Developed and built for the U.S. Army by Longbow LLC, (a joint venture with Lockheed Martin), it has also been ordered by the British Army.

It's US built. /rant

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[Hamma]

Awesome discussion guys!

As mentioned numerous times if you are going to go with the SCALE of PlanetSide as we know it you cannot run around with the best graphics engine out there.

Also, if you do go that way you then shut out all those users on lesser systems. I am more than happy if the graphics are lower as long as the gameplay is fun - I spent hundreds of hours playing early FPS games and they look like total shit but the gameplay was good.

Also as I mentioned in the other thread I have provided a link to this to SOE so keep it up!

[2coolforu]

Ah, thanks for that Westy. I can't remember where I heard that the radar on top of the rotor was a UK addition only for the Longbow. But there you go, you learn something new every day ^^

[Raymac]

2cool, I kind of agree because they don't look like guns, but that would leave the Galaxy that much more defenseless. It was already as easy target if you attacked from above, but without side gunners, it better have a crap-ton of armor or a really good escort. (I actually always liked flying escort runs in my Reaver)

Maybe that little thing towards the front of the tail is a small side gun?

[bjorntju1]

I don't care how it looks. It is freakin' Planetside 2! And it actually doesn't look bad. Not to forget it will look better ingame. I never really subscribed to the game. I only played the reservers and some time later you could play for free for a month of 1/2. But i think i am going to buy a time card so i can play the original Planetside again. I heard there are some more players after the trial was removed (because of the hackers). So some small scale battles would be nice! And not to forget you get into the Beta for Planetside 2 if everything goes well.

[2coolforu]

Perhaps it has a nose-gun of some form, looking at the front it seems to have a similar optics suite to a UH-1Y Venom.



Maybe that is for remote spying, or for laser designating artillery/airstrikes like they are in real life. Maybe it's just there for looks. However behind the 'dome' there's a cylinder visible which is very similar to the AH-64 FLIR suite and gunner optics, perhaps the Galaxy has a powerful nosegun.

If it is a proper aircraft maybe it can just fly high and fast enough to be immune to enemy fire? Maybe it's just a rapid transit device to get people and vehicles to the front. Maybe there are only a couple of runways on a continent. This would be a very good addition to Planetside, if there are only a few 'Airbase' plants that act like Dropship centres and have large runways for the more advanced aircraft it would add another strategic layer to the game.

Perhaps these 'Runway bases'/'Aircommand bases' can provide other support like rearm/repair (Dropship centre) and Radar support. Perhaps they can provide the infrastructure actually required for aircraft. Obviously these bases would be very open to attack since the runway would be moderately long, they would also provide extremely good staging points on the taxiways.

Remember there is a lot of space for change, in really old Planetside the galaxy had dual 75mm cannons; Anything could happen (within reason)