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Old 2011-07-30, 11:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #76
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Originally Posted by Aractain View Post
So will there be gay characters in the game? Id love to walk into a base and see a couple of guys and a horse and be like "WTF? How did you guys get a HORSE?!? I want one!".
Wasn't there one male voice that yelled "FABULOUS!" in PS1?
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Old 2011-07-30, 11:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #77
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If grown men can't serve with gays without harassing them then maybe those men shouldn't be soldiers?
Hehe. When I became an instructor, I used to sneak up on our trainees at night during FTX as they're sitting in foxholes. I'd hop in their foxhole with my knife drawn and eyeball the prettiest one, then say "Hey son. It's not queer in the field."

Oh, the lulz I had.
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Old 2011-07-30, 12:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #78
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@ cutterjohn

unavoidable, agreed alot of soldiers should grow up

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it isnt always the straight soldiers doing the harassing...
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Old 2011-07-30, 01:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #79
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it isnt always the straight soldiers doing the harassing...
No, you're right it isn't. And regardless of who it is, there's a reason it's called equal opportunity. Just because you're gay doesn't mean you're somehow protected from obeying the rules. I can't harass a male or female soldier because I'm straight. That whole "because I'm gay/straight" shouldn't be a caveat attached to that statement. You wear the uniform, you're a fucking soldier. Obey the rules. The end. And if your leadership can't enforce policy, they are a fucking failure. The end.
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Old 2011-07-30, 01:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #80
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first off i never said i supported the whole belief of no women and no gays but i do support less stress in combat units. you take me telling people why women are not allowed in combat units to im the one who supports it. I could careless if a woman was in my platoon as long as should could keep up and do the job. If a dude wants to puff pole i could careless as long as he can do his part. Now i dont care either way, im not an advocate for changing the policy as well i dont support the policy. It is just there are alot of people who feel different and dont support women in combat roles. Deal with it or get together with some others and picket the white house, but do not come at me like you know about my unit or me.
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Old 2011-07-30, 01:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #81
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Originally Posted by cashfoyogash View Post
@ firefly

first off i never said i supported the whole belief of no women and no gays but i do support less stress in combat units. you take me telling people why women are not allowed in combat units to im the one who supports it.
Yes you did. Would you like me to quote it?

Wait, nevermind. I'll quote it anyway.

Originally Posted by cashfoyogash View Post
Women should not be allowed in combat jobs, nor should there be gay men. Sadly the second is unavoidable
Originally Posted by cashfoyogash View Post
No, I was in the infantry a couple years ago and i dont feel women or gay men should be allowed in combat roles.
Originally Posted by cashfoyogash View Post
but do not come at me like you know about my unit or me.
If you don't want to be construed as an ignorant grunt from a backwards society who espouses the ideals of chauvinism and homophobia then don't fucking post it on the internet. The end.
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Old 2011-07-30, 02:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #82
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Yeah i dont feel they should be allowed in combat roles because of the up stir it causes not because they are women. Hence the support of less stress in the combat units. Read closer next time. The end.
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Old 2011-07-30, 02:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #83
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You can write "the end" all you like but it it doesn't change the fact that every single one of us who commented had read what you wrote and interpreted it as chauvinistic and homophobic. I read it closely. I think you're just back-pedaling now that pretty much everyone and their mom jumped down your throat. Here's a pro-tip: instead of leaving it to the reader to intuit some obscure meaning out of what looks to be clearly-written text, why don't you try writing your view properly and without obfusciation.

Because all of this:
Originally Posted by cashfoyogash View Post
Women should not be allowed in combat jobs, nor should there be gay men. Sadly the second is unavoidable
Originally Posted by cashfoyogash View Post
No, I was in the infantry a couple years ago and i dont feel women or gay men should be allowed in combat roles.
contradicts this:
Originally Posted by cashfoyogash View Post
i never said i supported the whole belief of no women and no gays but i do support less stress in combat units.
So stop trying to blame me or anyone else that read it the way I read it for your inability to articulate yourself.

And in the end, none of this changes a fucking thing about female avatars. Put them in the game, with relevant proportioned hitboxes. THAT, my friends, is the end.
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Old 2011-07-30, 02:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #84
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Originally Posted by cashfoyogash View Post
Yeah i dont feel they should be allowed in combat roles because of the up stir it causes not because they are women. Hence the support of less stress in the combat units. Read closer next time. The end.
Reminds me of the whole deal about the mosque being built in NYC and the uproar bigots created. Many of my friends even said they shouldn't build a mosque there, not because they thought they shouldn't but because it would avoid a lot of the hassle and stress.

In the end it's not about stress, it's about rights. Either you fight for them and try and work together for a better future for everyone or you continue living in a backwards society to avoid hassle. I feel this applies to both situations.
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Old 2011-07-30, 03:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #85
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Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
You can write "the end" all you like but it it doesn't change the fact that every single one of us who commented had read what you wrote and interpreted it as chauvinistic and homophobic. I read it closely. I think you're just back-pedaling now that pretty much everyone and their mom jumped down your throat. Here's a pro-tip: instead of leaving it to the reader to intuit some obscure meaning out of what looks to be clearly-written text, why don't you try writing your view properly and without obfusciation.

Because all of this:


contradicts this:


So stop trying to blame me or anyone else that read it the way I read it for your inability to articulate yourself.

And in the end, none of this changes a fucking thing about female avatars. Put them in the game, with relevant proportioned hitboxes. THAT, my friends, is the end.
Pro tip? congrats on being a "pro"

Im not blaming anyone for anything? I said dont come at me like you know me or my unit. You said my leadership is faulty and does not do their job. We have have had no issues with anything like this. So i said dont come at me like you know me or my unit. Anything anyone else has said i just responded with "women should not be allowed in combat roles". I do believe i even said it isnt because women cant do the job in previous posts before you started off on your whole thing.

From a game stand point I talked about this for realism to a game. Such as COD does not have women avatars because they keep it realistic. Do I think SOE has to go that realistic with their game, no. PS1 had women avatars so PS2 might as well have them. If they were trying to be realistic then no they should not allow women in the game, but thats a bit absurd because for the 2% of the pop that is women it may keep them from playing the game. So say about me what you will but I care not what you think. The post was about female avatars. I said they are not allowed in combat as of today and why they are not. I said I dont see that being an issue in the PS universe unless SOE was trying to have some sense of realism to the game and as long as the hitboxes and the silhouettes match the male avatars then they should put them in.

The end.
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Old 2011-07-30, 03:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #86
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Game Over.

Lets stay on topic next time.
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