Waiting for Goku Advice

[Goku]

You still want to run that on 1920x1080 screen? That is such a waste of money doing that. Thats why I was saying multimonitor or the high resolution 27/30 inch.

[Chaff]

figure I can run 3 X 24" at 1920X1080 right away
.....also....puts me RIGHT where I want......

.....where I almost HAVE to go HIGH RES

I can get the PC READY for it NOW....
.....and wait a few months.....

THIS config defintely is open to change
BUT, it puts me EVERYWHERE I want to be
.....short of my ULTIMATE monitor config.....

I think I might start off with 3 X 24"
.....a lot of cats swear by this setup.
I need to at least TRY it for a few months.

I like 1920X1080 - looks GOOD to my eye
and this way I keep my lag down & FPS high
(and I am primed to switch to the HIGH RES setup)

can't lose either way (IMO)
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[Goku]

Thats not the way to build a PC, Chaff. You are doing a complete over kill 3K build for a 1920x1080 monitor and going multimonitor a few months down the road. By the time you order this and then go multimonitor there will be way better video cards out that would allow you to run that res even better. Thats why it is not a good idea to be planning ahead like that. Really I think the best option for you is just to go with a single 580 for 1920x1080 as that will provide good FPS then go another for multimonitor whenever you get to that point. Just seems the recommendations I gave you got thrown out the window and you are back to the first build you wanted.

[Chaff]

Originally Posted by Goku

Thats not the way to build a PC, Chaff. You are doing a complete over kill 3K build for a 1920x1080 monitor and going multimonitor a few months down the road. By the time you order this and then go multimonitor there will be way better video cards out that would allow you to run that res even better. Thats why it is not a good idea to be planning ahead like that. Really I think the best option for you is just to go with a single 580 for 1920x1080 as that will provide good FPS then go another for multimonitor whenever you get to that point. Just seems the recommendations I gave you got thrown out the window and you are back to the first build you wanted.

(I have the multi-monitors RIGHT NOW)

....who knows.....I haven't pulled the trigger yet.....and if you read back....I've done a hell of a lot of waffling.

A LOT of people think spending ONE PENNY on gaming is a waste, so PERSPECTIVE, no matter how clear or skewed, is what ultimately drives us all.

...may not SEEM like it, but I am TRYING to NOT let my TWACKED side get the better of me on this. My imagination sometimes (temporarily) gets the better of me.

I don't need no school teacher scolding from no one. I'm a grown ass man - and I've got a long track record (of going sideways when I know better).


No worries. I HEAR what you're sayin', and it makes TOTAL sense.

We'll see. I'm gonna have fun no matter how damn responsible I (do, or don't) force myself to be.

[Goku]

You said only had two monitors, so you need to add another. Did you already buy another Samsung like the ones you have?

I don't need no school teacher scolding from no one. I'm a grown ass man - and I've got a long track record (of going sideways when I know better).

I realize I may sound jerkish, but I honestly do not know any other way to put it. A 1920x1080 with that setup is just a total waste of $3,000 when a $1,000 is plenty for that res. I am not scolding you in anyway. You did make the thread for feedback do not forget. Even on all the tech sites I visit I do not think I see anyone running 3 way 6950s at that res. Every know and 6950 crossfire maybe, but most multi gpu I see at that res is 460, 6850, or 6870. All higher end 6950 + video card are perfect for the res.

[Chaff]

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Adding a 3rd 24" monitor is not an issue. My gut tells me I will, and I will start off runnig three monitors. I want to give it a few months.

If I could run super high resolutions on any screen size - the logistcal reallities may be that 3 X 24" is about it ..... and that 3 X 27" (or bigger) would not work.

I am liking the idea at running 3 x 1920X1080 X 24"
(at least for a few months)

Last year I gave one of my extra 24" to my wifes best friend. Her Mom just died, and they'll be using her PC .... so fate may give me my 3rd 24". I like it cuz they'll all be the same Samsung. I've still got mine, and my son left me his old PC (that was in that Lian Li). He's good with just his laptop. He surfs waves (and the internet) - not into gaming anymore.

ONE 6980 will suffice the 3 X 1920X1080 ?
...and MAYBE I have to throttledown most of the rest of it....

[Goku]

Originally Posted by Chaff

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Adding a 3rd 24" monitor is not an issue. My gut tells me I will, and I will start off runnig three monitors. I want to give it a few months.

I am sorry, but you are confusing me now. You are starting with multi monitor then? How you are phrasing everything I am thinking you are starting with one 1920x1080 monitor then moving to three at a later time. Now its 3 x 24 inch monitors then moving to 3 x 27 inch? Are the 27 inch the Planar?

6980? Do you mean 6970 or 6990?

[Chaff]

I'm 99% setled on starting off running 3 X 24" @ 1920X1080
I had TWO all along, and it looks like a third one I gave away
will come back - I take it as A SIGN. They are all the same 24" Samsung.

The 27" PLANAR was something that I thought I'd look at as a single monitor
and if I liked it, I figured going 27" X 3 was then an option. I'm on my wifes
desktop with a 22" LG - and three-wide of these seems like it'd be enormous.
I doubt 3 X 27" is logistically feasable. It's so EASY to go 3 X 24", I feel I have
to try that first.

As I calm myself down I am left with the assumptive reasoning which is telling
me that going with three monitors at 27" or bigger would be a logistical mistake.

I'm having a hard time with my overkill tendencies. I should go down on the SSD
and my big HD. The Antec is overkill, but I want a PSU I can leave in there for a
long time. You can talk me down the ledge on most anything else.

If I like the 3 X 24" setup I assume I'd start looking for super high resolutions on that size
monitor....and try to SANELY work my way there.

Have a great Memorial weekend

[Goku]

Labor day? What video card are you talking about? There isn't a 6980 I know it is a typo of course.

Yeah 240GB is a bit overkill unless you have the budget for a SSD like that. 128GB should be plenty. If you have a need for 2TB of storage between games, movies, pictures, and so on thats fine as it doesn't eat a large portion of a budget. The PSU is good too. I would of likely recommended that for a 3 way setup anyway.

[Chaff]

yes / typo / my bad

yeah - LABOR Day (serious brain farts lately)

....considering the 6950 (instead of the GTX580)
lots cheaper, and is pretty close in performance.
GTX seems to really light-up with serious OCing.

[Goku]

I do not think I showed you this one yet. Here is a review the features a 6900 + 6970 Tri-Fire vs GTX 580 Tri-SLI going head to head with 3 monitors and a 30 inch monitor. A 6990+6970 is the same as 6970 3 way crossfire. Keep in mind the 6950 is a bit lower performance verse the 6970.

[Chaff]

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....already read that review a while back. Anandtech has test data that yields the same conclusion.
My last sentence in my post right before yours hits directly on this.


I've been stuck on the 580 for a while - and tests like this are why.

I got stuck on the 2600K & GTX580 combo a while back. They seem
to be an OC'ing match made in Heaven.

.....still, I've looked at AMD options more than once during that same time....

I'm hoping to beat Beta, but it's not necessary that I do. Maybe it's better if I don't. I might learn something about PS2 mechanics that help my build.

I'm mostly hoping that some stuff comes out that either drives what I already like down by a good margin, or some of the performance numbers on the new stuff is just too damn good to pass up.

I'm still dealing with an intenal debate on the 27/30 Dell/HP HIGH resolution single monitor route.

I do NOT like waffling this much, but I guess it's good I have the luxury of waiting for exterior dominoes to fall - before I build. I'm locked on the Antec, 8GB memory, 2600K,...

(.....don't mean I havn't "looked" at the Phenom II X6 1100T...)

I'm gonna try to lay off posting here until I'm within a week or so of pulling the trigger. I'm tired of hearing me.

I'll be back for the final submisson in a few weeks (I hope).

....my Stacker is stripped bare and has LOTS of room.

[Goku]

Lol Chaff. I can't wait to see your waddling when AMD's new CPU comes out. Its a octo core!

[Mutant]

Originally Posted by Goku

Lol Chaff. I can't wait to see your waddling when AMD's new CPU comes out. Its a octo core!

Whats the bet they announce bulldozer chips the day before Chaff presses go on the build

Hacks have been briefed and are under NDA already so cant be long.

And then once everything has been re adjusted HD7000 series hits lol

And then SB-E

and..
and,,..

Still at least its looking like ivy bridge and kepler are April/May now.

[Goku]

Originally Posted by Mutant

Whats the bet they announce bulldozer chips the day before Chaff presses go on the build

Hacks have been briefed and are under NDA already so cant be long.

And then once everything has been re adjusted HD7000 series hits lol

And then SB-E

and..
and,,..

Still at least its looking like ivy bridge and kepler are April/May now.

Indeed. We will tell him why he doesn't need 8 cores and then he is set after 3 pages. Then SB-E comes out. That will be at least 8 pages of discussion .