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Old 2003-03-08, 04:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Justification for war:

In 1991 Saddam signed the cease fire agreement, that basically said "disarm all your WMD, Missles that fly over 90km... " Basically, set his military down to DEFENSIVE instead of offensive...

He, for the last 12 years has failed to comply.

Containing him, and his weapons is a dangerous gamble. There are links with him to Terrorist. Just look at the 25k paid to the families of homicide bombers.... Isn't that enough to tell you he would do more? Or pre-disposed to such?

The countries most against the US and the 18 EU countires, Australia and a number of South American Countries and a few Asian ones are France, Germany, Russia and China.

China is just playing the game, and they dont like us.

Russia has an 8 BILLION dollar oil deal with Saddam.

Germany and France BOTH have MULTI BILLION dollar deals with Saddam..... BOTH of them.

Now, which country is acting on principles, and which country(s) are the greedy bastards?

Nuff said.
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Old 2003-03-08, 06:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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I also want to point out, just for the record in case anyone here doesn't know.... that Saddam is supposed to be serving a life sentence in prison as it is.

He was placed in jail after attempting an assassination of Iraq's leader at the time. He then escaped from jail and helped overthrow the government. Once the old regime reclaimed power, he was sentence to life in prison for his role in the coup. He was later freed when his party once again claimed power.

Just a little history lesson for anyone here who ever thinks Saddam is just some guy.
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Old 2003-03-08, 10:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Originally posted by Confectrix

Consequently, this gives us more reason to go to war. He is not following UN resolutions.

That isn't a good reason. It's more like a sorry ass excuse.

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Old 2003-03-09, 01:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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When all that ended the previous war was a sorry ass excuse called a resolution, the violation of one should call for the reinstatement of that war.



...sorry, I don't know how the hell you reinstate a war... it sounds like the war got kicked out of office and it's been redeemed, so we're giving it its old job back... sorry...
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Old 2003-03-09, 03:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally posted by MrVicchio
Now, which country is acting on principles, and which country(s) are the greedy bastards?
I believe that all of them are greedy, self-interested bastards. US, France, German, GB, Russia, all of them.

There are strong arguments for going to war and their are strong arguments for not going to war. You can find good moral ground to stand on with either position that you choose. I am sure that most people on this forum are not thinking of the greedy reason for being pro or anti war. I am certain that they are following their principles.

The reason why I think all the countries are are acting for greedy reason is because you can draw a 1 to 1 correlation between their stance on Iraq and its economic impact on their country.

As far as the people that are pro war, I am sure that you were pro war before you heard about this remote controlled biological weapon delivery system.

What you need to think about is: do you believe that someone who is against a war with Iraq would swich their position because of this new evidence.

I just don't see this evidence as groundbreaking enough to sway the position of the anti war folks.

I definately don't see this as enough to sway the economic interests of Germany, France, or other countries that oppose war.
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Old 2003-03-09, 03:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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