Hussein info....

[Warborn]

Originally posted by Gortha
Whole world knows this... nothing new.

But there are better solutions to disarm.

No, there aren't, and it's about time you people pulled your head out of your ass and realized this. If Saddam was serious about disarming, there'd have been no unaccountable materials listed in their weapons summary. If he was serious, there wouldn't be 100 illegal missiles being crushed in Iraq a few a week. If he were serious, the inspectors wouldn't be complaining about poor Iraqi cooperation. But, no, you anti-war people will blindly chew and swallow whatever mass opinion is. It's pathetic, but it also makes me happy in a way. If someone can figure out how to make mass opinion entail having a clue, maybe you people will actually have an opinion someone apart from yourselves cares about sometime in the future.

[NARF]

There ARE NO BETTER SOLUTIONS. A person who can name one reasonable and feasible route, has my undying loyalty and respect. The inspectors are not there to disarm him, they're there to see if he has weapons, WE KNOW HE DOES, all but a few of the inspectors say this, the ones who don't, have reasons not to. If we do not go in very soon, Israel will fall to Iraq, this will cause WORLWIDE PROBLEMS! Israel is the most important place in all the world, 80% of the world holds it as the holiest place in the world. If Israel falls, the entire world turns against itself. The cohesion of all civilization hinges on the soveirnty of the state of Israel, wether you like it or not.

Although Israel is not Saddam's primary goal right now, if we let him have these weapons, it will open up a door to Israel, and THIS, my friends, will be cause for a lot of grief.

[Navaron]

You know, this is just a repeat of the old wars. The same liberals, weak kneed people, praised the virtues and values of the dictators, called them reasonable, and berated those who would stand against them. Lenin called them Usefull Idiots. Apparently it's genetic.

[Arshune]

Heck, Stalin was Time Magazine's man of the year once...

[Navaron]

You know, I'd like to see just one of you anti war people have to balls to argue these FACTS I posted. All I ever hear from these turtlenecked beret wearing hippies are the same 5 lines, with no facts to back it up. It's pathetic how brainwashed they are. Gortha, you're so anti US and anti war, why don't you bring some facts to the table and stop carrying the flag of the blind?

I challenge any of you anti war people to take on any of the articles I posted with fact. We both know you don't posses any.

[Confectrix]

Wow.

Despite all the vulgarity; BOHICA [and Mr. V] is quite the club of scholars.

I'm impressed.

[Lexington_Steele]

Hey Mr V, I did some research and found out what the post war plan is, but I thank you for your reply.

It is to have an American administration at the beginning and try to bring in Iraqi officials realtively quickly like you said.

So, with an entirely American administration in Iraq, who is going to get the majority of the oil and construction deals?

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Warborn
No, there aren't, and it's about time you people pulled your head out of your ass and realized this. If Saddam was serious about disarming, there'd have been no unaccountable materials listed in their weapons summary. If he was serious, there wouldn't be 100 illegal missiles being crushed in Iraq a few a week. If he were serious, the inspectors wouldn't be complaining about poor Iraqi cooperation. But, no, you anti-war people will blindly chew and swallow whatever mass opinion is. It's pathetic, but it also makes me happy in a way. If someone can figure out how to make mass opinion entail having a clue, maybe you people will actually have an opinion someone apart from yourselves cares about sometime in the future.

Garbage. Pro-war people have very good points and anti-war people have very good points. Just because you don't agree with them does not mean they are pathetic and don't have a clue.

It should be very interesting to see how the US will deal with Iran now that it seems that they too have been developing WMDs (in violation of the non proliferation agreement). Are we going to to go to war with Iran next? Then NK after that? Heck, lets be at war for the next 10 years or so.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
You know, I'd like to see just one of you anti war people have to balls to argue these FACTS I posted. All I ever hear from these turtlenecked beret wearing hippies are the same 5 lines, with no facts to back it up. It's pathetic how brainwashed they are. Gortha, you're so anti US and anti war, why don't you bring some facts to the table and stop carrying the flag of the blind?

I challenge any of you anti war people to take on any of the articles I posted with fact. We both know you don't posses any.

Argue which facts? Argue the fact that Saddam should not be in power? I think most of the world agrees that they would prefer someone else in power besides Saddam. That is not where the anti war and the pro war folks disagree.

Just because you do not see a non military solution does not mean that such a solution does not exist. I can see why the world would not want to see Iraq with a US administration running it.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
You know, this is just a repeat of the old wars. The same liberals, weak kneed people, praised the virtues and values of the dictators, called them reasonable, and berated those who would stand against them. Lenin called them Usefull Idiots. Apparently it's genetic.

Who is praising Saddam. Gortha called Saddam a son of a bitch. I don't see anyone, liberal or otherwise, praising the job Saddam has done.

PS, remember that I am pro war, and MTX has stated he is pro war (I beleive). Bad mouthing liberals is not going to get you anywhere.

[Gortha]

@MrVicchio:

????!!!!Sorry!!!!???? ... hey mrVic did i send out those hords of Soldiers or your stupid BushiMuschi?

There was NEVER a NEED to send so much Troops out to Iraq...
The USA have to pay many i know, and RIGHT so!

The US-Administration is acting like a DiKtator... trying to blackmail other countries or just to say "If they are not WITH us they AGAINST us....blabla Bullshit" <--- This is imperialsitic and fashistic BULLshit!

Gortha

[Gortha]

@{BOHICA}Navaron

sINCE I AM a member of this Forum i posted really enough Reasons and Facts.... just test the Search option......

And i am not anti US i am Anti-Bush and Anti-Wolfowitz(who is a NeoConand one of the biggest Assholes and Kiregstreiber in the World)/Chainy/Rice/Powell lets say Anti-US-Administration. But not anti US... nothing against US-Americans.

Gortha

[MrVicchio]

Gortha,

When a Country Goes to war, Like we did in 1991 and we force the loser to sign an agreement because he go this but kicked, he then HAS to follow it or we gotta finish the job.


Here is the analogy for you:

Your a debt colloction agency, you take everything a man has, but his house, he PROMISES to pay everything back if you DONT take his house...

after 12 years, and you KNOW he has money, he has failed to pay what he owes... what would you, as the debt collection agency do?

A: Keep sending people over trying to FIND his money, even tho he keeps hiding his corevettes and high spped fishing boats and large sums of cash...

B: Take his house.


That simple enough for you?

[MrVicchio]

Lex,

Uhm, read my analogy in the above post.....

Now, using that, whose gonna get the money(oil deals)


Your debt collection agency or the people he's been paying to buy his stuff (France, Germany and russia)


That make it clear enough?

[KoldFusion]

Great job NAV. Nice post Mr. V.

Good discussion all. Gortha.... you posted fact? where? I have never seen it.

I will abstain from this discussion as everyone knows where i stand and i'm not going to rehash it.