French will trade for Whine?

[Gortha]

Perhaps u should read this article, before u say something like this.

The "Spiegel" a Magazine which is accepted worldwide as a legitimate Magazine isn�t writing shit.

Gortha

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Hamma


As for Gortha, lets see some proof bro

One source is hardly proof.

Lets see some proof that it isn't a war for oil.

On this site we have seen an number of article by accredited journalist, economist and political analysts. More than that, the oil motive fits the scenario perfectly.

I will not accept material that says war is not for oil that comes from our administration. The reason why I would not accept such evidence is because the US government has nothing to gain by saying that the war is for oil.

In fact, if the US government declared it was for oil, political opponents of the US would use this as amunition against the political position of the US.

If the shoe fits, werar it.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Confectrix
The United States cannot give what it does not own. The Iraqi people will decide where those contracts go. Not the US; not Saddam.

These countries obviously have deals with Iraq. Numbers on these deals are not hard to find. Why can't the US enforce these contractual obligations?

BTW, governments often limit who their people can trade with.

[Gortha]

Like usually Lex u are damn right.

Greetz
Gortha

[Hamma]

Its amazing how people are so blind to another sides views.

I hate people.

[Gortha]

If u are talking about both sides, pro and contra than u are right.... in most times.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Hamma
Its amazing how people are so blind to another sides views.

I hate people.

But people love you.

[SilentCacophony]

Hey Lex, do you still have that article about Cheney's oil dealings with Iraq? I had the page bookmarked, but deleted it after reading it . They want proof? Give them some good old U.S. of A proof, since that's all they seem to believe in.

[SilentCacophony]

ok, wtf. I'm reading this article now.

"Salih is expected to be one of the leading political figures in Iraq, along with the PUK's leader Jalal Talabani, after the fall of Iraq's current leader Saddam Hussein. The Kurdish enclave in northern Iraq, protected for a decade by British and U.S. warplanes enforcing a no-fly zone, has become an island of prosperity and nascent democratic ways. "

That shows that the man saying they won't honour France or Russia's oil contracts when Saddam has been ousted, is also the man most likely to become IN power once Sadam has been removed. So by saying he won't honour them, that means the U.S. could easily obtain said oil contracts, right? This guy gets leadership if the U.S. goes to war and removes Saddam from power, right?

In other words, "Hey U.S., you come take out this "EVIL" dictator, put me in power, and I'll give you these lucrative $20 BILLION dollar oil contracts." Nah, it's not about oil though.

[Lexington_Steele]

Hamma and Confectrix, here is a very good read on Iraqi oil, and it's economic implications accross the world.

http://www.observer.co.uk/internatio...882512,00.html

P.S. Silent, I am not sure which article you are talking about but I am digging through my bookmarks to find it.

[Lexington_Steele]

Here is another article entitled, "It's Not "All About Oil," But... Victory in Iraq would reshuffle the global players with big stakes in the country's oil fields. "

http://foi.missouri.edu/usenergypoli...laboutoil.html

[SilentCacophony]

I'm pretty sure it had been posted by you. It was all about cheney having dealings with Iraq despite the UN sanctions.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by SilentCacophony
I'm pretty sure it had been posted by you. It was all about cheney having dealings with Iraq despite the UN sanctions.

I couldn't find it, I think the one you were talking about was posted by Airlift.

[SilentCacophony]

Found it myself on google after a quick search. I recognized it because it has "Cacophony" in the first sentence . Found the article on a couple of pages actually:

http://www.sfbg.com/reality/04.html

[Lexington_Steele]

Here is one about Dick Cheney's politcal motivations and his deals with Iraq tho.

http://www.sfbg.com/reality/04.html

Edit: you beat me to it.