How will you play - Competitively or Casually?

[Meriv]

Originally Posted by Dart

This is either one of the most ill-thought-out posts on this forum or one of the most poorly worded. You hope teamwork isn't decisive in PlanetSide 2 because you "like lone wolfing"? You do realise this is an MMOFPS right? If you choose to do "lone wolfing" that's your call, but if I come with my 5 Outfit-mates you'd better expect you're going to get wiped.

sorry for the grammar, I am not using a keyboard.

I was refering to faction players, not team, because my time schedule is quite unpredictable soo I can't organize myself with an outfit. What I wanted to say is that even if I don't have an outfit I want to be able to do something usefull and competitive more than just killing, and not being penalized too much by my faction that is lemming.

[Dart]

Originally Posted by Meriv

sorry for the grammar, I am not using a keyboard.

I was refering to faction players, not team, because my time schedule is quite unpredictable soo I can't organize myself with an outfit. What I wanted to say is that even if I don't have an outfit I want to be able to do something usefull and competitive more than just killing, and not being penalized too much by my faction that is lemming.

I'm afraid to say that the days of 'solo ghost hacking' are probably at an end. Well you can still ghost in PS1 for a while but as far as PS2 is concerned the rotund female has started her warm-up. Why? Partly because of the game mechanics; bases behind enemy lines take longer to cap and are faster to resecure and partly because of the (anticipated) scale of PS2; there will be 600 slots per Continent and we have to expect those to be pretty full. As such it is HIGHLY unlikely one person will be able to move the map on their own any more. In fact I'd imagine groups of less than 20 may struggle significantly too....

I'm not sure whether this is a good thing or a bad thing but it is almost definitely a thing.

[Meriv]

Originally Posted by Dart

I'm afraid to say that the days of 'solo ghost hacking' are probably at an end. Well you can still ghost in PS1 for a while but as far as PS2 is concerned the rotund female has started her warm-up. Why? Partly because of the game mechanics; bases behind enemy lines take longer to cap and are faster to resecure and partly because of the (anticipated) scale of PS2; there will be 600 slots per Continent and we have to expect those to be pretty full. As such it is HIGHLY unlikely one person will be able to move the map on their own any more. In fact I'd imagine groups of less than 20 may struggle significantly too....

I'm not sure whether this is a good thing or a bad thing but it is almost definitely a thing.

I understand the mechanics, i'm just worried that my gameplay will be greatly influenced by not being able to be in a outfit(time schedule reason), and having my gameplay influenced by the casual(not a bad thing but the gauss curve tells me that for a tot. occasion i will find myself with bad players/or myself playing bad and i don't want to disrupt my factionmate gameplay)

Edit: just in case to not being taken as a 100% lone wolf, in the 95% of the games i play or that i have played i almost always choose a support class/hybrid class and never pure dps(if we can use this term).

[Dart]

Originally Posted by Meriv

I understand the mechanics, i'm just worried that my gameplay will be greatly influenced by not being able to be in a outfit(time schedule reason), and having my gameplay influenced by the casual(not a bad thing but the gauss curve tells me that for a tot. occasion i will find myself with bad players/or myself playing bad and i don't want to disrupt my factionmate gameplay)

I know you're not typing on a keyboard but are you composing these posts on an Etch-A-Sketch?! I'm not saying that solo players won't be able to do ANYTHING; vehicular combat particularly seems to be tilted more towards the individual than the last game was. However until we see some more 'support' tasks for players to perform (I'm hoping they exist) your role as a solo player looks to be more as a killer or troop transport driver/pilot than anything.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Meriv

I understand the mechanics, i'm just worried that my gameplay will be greatly influenced by not being able to be in a outfit(time schedule reason), and having my gameplay influenced by the casual(not a bad thing but the gauss curve tells me that for a tot. occasion i will find myself with bad players/or myself playing bad and i don't want to disrupt my factionmate gameplay)

Edit: just in case to not being taken as a 100% lone wolf, in the 95% of the games i play or that i have played i almost always choose a support class/hybrid class and never pure dps(if we can use this term).

i still expect there to be plenty of stuff you can do in PS2 as a support player, from driving gals, laying mind fields or yea, as dart said, just solo it up in a vehicle...*shifty eyes* this isnt an MMORPG, a solo player can accomplish things, while i doubt you would takedown 5 of Darts particular people solo it was certainly possible to kill 6 or so people solo in Planetside 1 and with the lower ttk in planetside 2, it should be even easier.

Also its easy to run with the zerg in Planetsides, while in MMRPG,s you need to be in group to get heals and buffs, its not the case in this, just roll around in the blob, who cares.

[Dart]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

it was certainly possible to kill 6 or so people solo in Planetside 1 and with the lower ttk in planetside 2, it should be even easier.

That is the great debate isn't it? Will the reduce ttk make it harder or easier to kill multiple enemies at once. I don't mean one after the other, of course then the reduced ttk will make it easier. I mean 3 or 4 v 1. We can't even come to a consensus in our clan, let alone as a community but it's an interesting question. One the one side you can kill people faster so, assuming you have good aim, it should be easier right? However on the flip side, assuming you're fighting against less-accurate players, they only need to get 'lucky' a couple of times and you're dead. I tend to think it'll make it more difficult however as I said, I know plenty who feel the opposite is true.

[CTheRain]

Glitch my ass to the leaderboards and just mess around until they fix the basic stuff. Then after I get back from Basic training I'll start playing competitively within my outfit.

[Senyu]

Sitting on a mountain, looking for something that moves, and sniping its head off..........alllllllll day

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Dart

That is the great debate isn't it? Will the reduce ttk make it harder or easier to kill multiple enemies at once. I don't mean one after the other, of course then the reduced ttk will make it easier. I mean 3 or 4 v 1. We can't even come to a consensus in our clan, let alone as a community but it's an interesting question. One the one side you can kill people faster so, assuming you have good aim, it should be easier right? However on the flip side, assuming you're fighting against less-accurate players, they only need to get 'lucky' a couple of times and you're dead. I tend to think it'll make it more difficult however as I said, I know plenty who feel the opposite is true.

well this is why i said should, like i do in most posts, i leave things open to change and the unknown. certainly longer TTK's and more HP etc, makes it harder to take on multiple people, for sure. im talking like WOT 30 seconds to kill something here BTW, theres simply no way i can take on 5 people at once with them all shooting at me(of the same tier..), even taking them one by one, yea it can be done, but if they have even the slightest bit of brains they will simply overwhelm you because you cant kill them fast enough.

Saying that though, i think it depends on the situation, some you might be better off some you might be worse. planetside 2 looks to have a kinda high TTK for a tactical shooter, this means it requires several well placed shots to kill somebody. if you were to fight these players so they came came in the door 2 second after one another, if would favor a faster TTK, you could kill each on individually and work them down and essentially fight them all 1v1, up the TTK though and those guys stream in at the same rate, you get overwhelmed, you cant kill them fast enough.

In a situation when you're fighting vs 5 people at once, if you COMPLETELY had the jump on them you could waste them all in quick spray if you were playing hardcore mode or something. if they saw you though, while you might be able to kill one, all they need is one of the 5 dudes to hit you once and you're fucked. but yea with a lower TTK it favours who gets the jump on who and i dont think thats the best design for a game thats about defending and holding land. but yea, in this situation i would prefer a planetside or brink TTK, where they require several shots to take me down and iv got HA and are pumping them with every shot, while they cant even see me because they're blinded by tears induced by my ADADADA mashing...ANYWAY.

So in summery, i think it depends on the situation. :P been a lasher user though, i typically found i was overwhelmed alot, you know, WHEN IM FUCKING RELOADING AFTER 2 KILLS. id never try to takeon 5 people at once unless i had them in a corridor with a lasher or i had a MCG/JH.

[Obiyer]

I want to make friends, that's my main goal PS2. I mean, I want to play well, but you know, that depends on my opponents. I could lose an arm tommorow and never play another FPS game again. In PS1 after playing a long time I get that icky feeling like I've wasted my time. I never got that while playing WoW in a guild where I was making things for guild mates, I actually felt really bad when I left. I should've stayed in the Guild.

I want to play PS2 less selfishly, where it's not always about me, and how good I am and how well I'm doing. I want my time spent playing in PS2 to matter, competitively or casual, I don't know. Whichever, I want to stick with playing PS2 over a long time and develop lasting relationships with people, as I tend to leave games after about a month or two. So that's how I plan to play PS2.

[Flaropri]

I want to play casually and get stuff done at the same time. I've very curious to see how the community mete-game will develop, including what gets carried over from PS1. In essence, I want to see how various outfits decide to function with and against each other, and how they'll decide on targets within their faction on a given continent etc. However I don't know that I'll put too much effort to get involved in it beyond doing what seems most entertaining at a given time in-game.

[Neksar]

I have a nasty habit of playing games casually and getting frustrated when the people who don't keep refusing to use nothing but the most optimized loadouts. I'm hoping PS2 will alleviate that problem with all of its pratter of 'sidegrades' and I can just find something that works for me and is fun. Games like Battlefield 3 and Dark Souls discourage finding stuff that's fun or an interesting concept in favor of optimization, and I think that is a bad thing. Why give players all of that customization if it just turns into a glorified scavenger hunt for what makes everything else obselete?

[maddoggg]

Competitive all the way
Although i never understood the hole playing for stats thing...
I kinda miss the old times when people played a game for fun,not for boosting a stat like K/D for example.

I am curies to see how competitive play would work in planetside 2.
It deffinetly wont be like esports or tournament ladders like i am use to,but i am guessing it would be pretty fun to have clan versus clan battles

[Meriv]

Originally Posted by Neksar

I have a nasty habit of playing games casually and getting frustrated when the people who don't keep refusing to use nothing but the most optimized loadouts. I'm hoping PS2 will alleviate that problem with all of its pratter of 'sidegrades' and I can just find something that works for me and is fun. Games like Battlefield 3 and Dark Souls discourage finding stuff that's fun or an interesting concept in favor of optimization, and I think that is a bad thing. Why give players all of that customization if it just turns into a glorified scavenger hunt for what makes everything else obselete?

Idk how it works in PS2 but normally you discourage that with the simple triangle of A beats B, B beats C , C beats A. That i think in PS2 will work quite well (i hope)

[Danelo]

A casual player for me is a player who doesn't adapt to the game competitively, someone who plays for himself and doesn't benefit the team at all. A reason why I stopped playing battlefield 3 is because the game was overrun by casual players.

A hardcore player likes to take the game seriously and enjoy other aspects of a game rather than just a good score.