Should camo be obtainable without money?

[Otleaz]

Sorry, but I don't play competitive games to win because of the items I buy. I don't want to win with my wallet... If it gives someone an edge, it doesn't belong on the cash shop.

Either remove effective camo, or make it so anyone can buy it.

[Envenom]

Originally Posted by meiam

I really doubt camo will be there primary source of income, someone mentioned tribes, played 10-20 hour of it, never saw a single camo, so either tribes is not making any money, or most player are buying weapon with money. And I think one of the reason is that if someone shoot you with a better weapon (let's not kid ourselves, not all weapon will be equal) there's no way to know if that person got that weapon by grinding it or by buying, but a camo you know 100% the person brought it.

Now if you want to buy a camo that is only possible to be brought with money to broadcast that you support the game, those should exist, that was in my first post, heck they could even have a camo that says on the chest "I payed for this because I support PS2". But some people don't want the label and won't spend money because they'll want to avoid it, so not making money were you could have made some.

Also camo aren't supposed to make you invisible in knife fight, there supposed to make it harder to aim at long range and make it harder to spot you at very long range. If there's a green spot on a green background 5 km away, it's pretty hard to spot it, but if there's a bright purple, then it's much easier.

Why would you NOT want people to know you spent money and support the welfare of the game??? Your sense of logic is flawed to me.

[Stew]

Pay to bling for the win Gimme my shiny golden pistol

[Striker KOJ]

Originally Posted by meiam

I really doubt camo will be there primary source of income, someone mentioned tribes, played 10-20 hour of it, never saw a single camo, so either tribes is not making any money, or most player are buying weapon with money. And I think one of the reason is that if someone shoot you with a better weapon (let's not kid ourselves, not all weapon will be equal) there's no way to know if that person got that weapon by grinding it or by buying, but a camo you know 100% the person brought it.

Now if you want to buy a camo that is only possible to be brought with money to broadcast that you support the game, those should exist, that was in my first post, heck they could even have a camo that says on the chest "I payed for this because I support PS2". But some people don't want the label and won't spend money because they'll want to avoid it, so not making money were you could have made some.

Also camo aren't supposed to make you invisible in knife fight, there supposed to make it harder to aim at long range and make it harder to spot you at very long range. If there's a green spot on a green background 5 km away, it's pretty hard to spot it, but if there's a bright purple, then it's much easier.

I stopped reading around page 4 because this conversation was going no where.

Personally, I think that YOU, meiam, are the one harboring a stigma against "payers" and "buyers". I think YOU are the one who wants to buy whatever, but not get labeled a "buyer". I think YOU are the one who wants a cop out excuse that "it's available in game, so you don't know if I just play better than you".

Or

You just dont want to pay for shit, and you are trying to get things you are interested in put into the game attainable for free by some means so you can get what you want.

Either way, I think you're the problem.

PS. Forgive the hostility, but had a long day at work and reading this was trying my patience. Nobody gives a damn if somebody paid for something. Nobody should give a damn for being called a "payer".

PPS. Those terms are retarded.

[Shade Millith]

2) They might actually give advantage, I'd rather have a desert camo than being bright blue/pink in a desert fight.

The camo's in E3 weren't the final ones. The Dev's have already announced that they're all going to be tinted to your empires colours.

Even with a desert/zebra camo, you're still going to be bright purple/red/blue.

[Meriv]

Originally Posted by Envenom

Why would you NOT want people to know you spent money and support the welfare of the game??? Your sense of logic is flawed to me.

a bit out of topic

because some ppl hunt you down, idk what it is but some of my best Wot memories are me taking down premium tankers of higher tier, and it is the first thing it comes to my mind (pz4 taking down a lowe) and it is unconcius. It feels better taking them down, don't ask me why, while others me included go to them because premiun=exp boost=less experience = easier prey

pls don't flam me I am just being honest but won't pay a session with my psicologist to understand why I love obliterating Lowes and Kv5(premiun tanks)

[Ragefighter]

I would bet that there are some kind of rewards for obtaining a big achievement of some sort, like a camo maybe. would be neat if the hard to get achievements granted a unique looking appearance item.