I so fed up with all the VS QQing that they need a buff.

[FortySe7en]

Why is this even a thread?

[Majik]

Magrider can't strafe anything like it could in ps. Now it moves like it has a ton of bricks in it's shorts. I miss my Thresher :-(

[Hamma]

This will be a constant issue throughout beta and release even if there is nothing wrong. People always think certain weapons or factions are under/overpowered. Usually people think they are underpowered and the enemy is overpowered..

[Mavvvy]

Map control is not a good indicator of weapons balancing. There is a really skilled outfit or individual squads working together on the vs side in EU1. tbh they have to as they are outmanned. Dispite the low numbers they have pulled off some very good pushes and captures.

As a nc player I have my fair share of vs nemesis's. Fyi their scythes love baiting you into skyguard flak traps.

[ringring]

Funny someone on our forums was saying we let VS get away with stuff. But last night we were driving north from Allatum to wards Saurva and at one point cleared the NC out - but we lost our spawn points and had to go backwards.

When I logged off last night we our territory was oblong shaped, narrow at the bottom where VS was pressing but long in the north into NC land.

[RSphil]

was the same on EU 2 last night as well. the VS seem fine to me. they kill just as fast as me on my NC, sometimes faster. leave them alone and see what they are like when more people get in or at release.

[diLLa]

On EU1 the battle between NC and TR seems to be constantly around Allattum, and the area north from it. This leaves room for the VS to capture the eastern part of the map.

Yesterday we made a push towards VS territory, and managed to get as far as the stronghold, which we held for quite some time, even though we got severely outnumbered.

The fact TR is losing a lot atm on EU1, is mostly a numbers game. I haven't seen NC or VS make a serious push into eachothers territory for quite some time.

[Renegadeknight]

VS guns are pretty good currently, nothing wrong with them.

[Diehard]

"Grass is always greener on the other side".

[Stardouser]

If VS wasn't forumsiding to try and get an advantage, it would be easier to trust SOE to get the balance right. But with the organized way they're trying to claim NC is more powerful even though VS wins due to higher fire rate very often, it forces NC to respond. VS may have a bit of a disadvantage at longer range but at shorter range this is definitely true. And while I haven't fought a whole lot against this specific thing, it seems like there is some kind of unlockable secondary turret for VS tanks or something that is very good at long range.

[Rago]

Gnaah i remember this when i looked at the map
We are just better organized People thats all.

[SpottyGekko]

Originally Posted by Rago

Gnaah i remember this when i looked at the map
We are just better organized People thats all.

^^That seems to be undeniably true on EU1

Up until a week or so ago, the VS were a non-factor on EU1. Nowadays they are camping in NC territory, regularly claiming large swathes of the NE quadrant. I can very often drive out of the NC warpgate and start shooting VS immediately, but it usually requires a Gal ride to reach the TR

Kudo's to whoever has rallied the VS on EU1. The factions are all about equal in numbers these days (VS still the lowest, but only by 2 or 3%). Yet the VS are causing much more grief than their numbers would indicate.

[Sunrock]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

And while I haven't fought a whole lot against this specific thing, it seems like there is some kind of unlockable secondary turret for VS tanks or something that is very good at long range.

Jup. EU 01 was full last night so I had to play on EU 03 and jumped into a Magrider that had a Saron HRB equiped. Very effective weapon I most say. No bullet drop what so ever and you can almost one shot MAX units with it.

[dm Akolyte]

Some of the VS weapons seem weak, but the VS medic's gun is redonkulous

[Miir]

Dev's have all the hard weapon data. Hopefully they use that instead of listening to nerf/buff posts.

I kill lots of things with my VS weapons. They are not perfectly balanced yet but they are close. With the exception of the sniper rifle which is complete garbage since you cannot get a OSOK at range. Which basically makes that class useless.

I look forward to see what sort of tweaks we get in the coming weeks and expect a shit-ton more QQing threads as a result.