New Patch

[�io]

The thing i'd like to see is a slight decrease on the assault cost.

MAX or Tank cert = 3 pts

AV, Special or Heavy assault = 5 or 6

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[Matuse]

It isn't just a matter of a MAX not being able to carry the same amount of armor as a tank, they also are highly unlikely to be made of the same stuff.

Tank armor can be WAY stronger by volumne than MAX armor can, because it has so much more engine power to be able to move with it.

If it takes 2 people, another MAX, and a wall turret to bring down a MAX with any speed, that really sounds too strong.

[Arthell]

Hellsfire123, i loaded the game with Mediaum graphics and my computer crashed the second i went into the VR training (twice) until i was able to look at the ground and change my graphics to low. After that i crashed twice in the battlefield.

Like i said, i know MAXs are suppose to be like tanks and i completely agree with that, but not being able to kill a MAX with a squad of infantry IMO is downright bad. I dont like games like EQ and DAoC very much because they force you to do things for certain situations. I dont want to be forced into buying an AV cert, and if i dont i will die everytime a MAX gets near me. Before the patch i was able to kill a TR AI MAX with a couple clips (20ish hits) from the Lasher, but now its just a waste of ammo.

Another part is that getting kills in a MAX is extremely easy. An AI MAX still has a much better chance of killing someone that has AV weapons since a MAX can take a beating if my escapade told me anything. A MAX cert only costs 2-3 points while an AV cert costs 5, and the MAX still has the advantage. You need multiple people with AV weapons to effectively take them down, so why would people waste more certs when they could just go MAX?

http://www.angelfire.com/crazy/pics_1/index3

Seeing this come up in the kill window was normal. Through the whole two hours we fought i didnt once see that guy die, yet i seen his kill messages all the time. Actually, it was rare to see normal kill messages (grunt ones). As you can see from the chat, i was getting pretty PO'd right about now. Our squad had changed to MAXs (hence the 'need an engi' part) but we were at our last base. I didnt stay to see the end, like alot of people, but i would bet a pretty penny TR locked down that continent.

[Vash]

I dunno Led, I didnt notice too much of a difference at range. It seems I did miss a few more shots than I would've normally, but it's kinda hard to tell when shooting through all those weird little trees.

Close combat did seem even harder with it though... like they went overboard with crosshair bloom on the move. Going full auto with the gauss now makes it barely more effective than the jackhammer. Gotta be careful with burst-fire now

[Arthell]

Note that this is just my guestimating since i cant keep track of the numbers, but this is what i gathered after a couple hours of standing around dumbfounded as people butchered me.

Flechete Shotgun does 20-30 damage with AP at point-blank range.

The Cycler does about 10-15 damage per second with AP.

The Striker and/or the Decimator do 200 damage. Im not sure what one it was, but in all cases i still had enough time to kill the infantry shooting at me 3 times over before they got 3 rockets off and had to reload/drop the weapon. End case is you have to have 2-3 AV people per MAX.

Knives do nothing. (old news)

Pistols do nothing. (I think I had to be hit 3 times before taking a point of damage)

There were also a couple assault rifles that didnt do damage to me until they hit multiple times, although im not sure what they were.

And so far in-game about 70% of infantry are MAXs from what i could see. The only other infantry were infiltration, a couple engineers and some grunts.

[1024]

Wait, first of all, most important question:

HOW THE HECK DID YOU GET INTO THE SERVER???

[Dharkbayne]

This is BEFORE The megapatch, sry, kinda big

[Venoxile]

that is fucked up, no one fucking quote that, too massive of a pic, christ. Geezus that was like 10 guys in a row, what did they all have, suppressors??

[FliggenMan]

Look, to me it just sounds like yer not sticking with yer squad, because most AV weapons and Special assault weapons can take MAX units pretty well, especially the decimator.
MAX units are great indoors, because nobody can flank them or confuse them, it's just whoever has the most firepower wins. The decimator I've heard is ideal for dealing with them. It'd also be very funny if you weren't using AP rounds, which i hope u are.
Outdoors, it's tougher though, but still very possible.

[stahl]

I think part of it also is that a lot of the n00bs that just got in today don't switch to AP ammo for MAXs. I could certainly notice the different between standard and AP when taking on a MAX, although not as much as before the mega patch.