New Exp model--- BAD IDEA - Page 3

vawlk · 2003-05-21, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Hamma
I for one dont play the game for XP, so if i get one or twenty per kill I could care less

I know I am not the only one that has that view. If i locked threads I disagree with it would be a quiet place. Just stating my opinon like everyone else

seems to be Tribes vs other people :P

I still think that playing this game for XP will lead to quick and utter boredom.

Scarab · 2003-05-21, 02:21 AM

The funny thing is, I worry more about exp now than I ever did, because I"m no longer earning it. I didn't care before because it was flowing at a decent pace no matter what. I also didn't really care once I reached BR 12. That's really all I needed. I don't want that to take 2-3 months though.

Cyber · 2003-05-21, 03:14 AM

It's not that bad. I started playing today around 1pm. By 2am (I admit it, I have no life

) I'm already BR8. Didn't have any problems getting there and didn't stress over getting BEPs at all, just played the game and you will eventually get them.

But, you have to fight, hotly contested base caps are worth more BEPs, recapturing bases are worth a good amount of BEPs even if it is a single hacker guy. Tower fights aren't quite as good of XP as they once were and ANT runs have lost some of thier mega XP boost (at least in squads...)

But, if your in a squad that at least *tries* to work together getting BR shouldn't be any trouble. Ya, I'm sure it's gonna slow down at >12 or so. But so what, by then you've got enough certs to really have plenty of options.

instant · 2003-05-21, 02:58 PM

Just saw PS in the store today.. passed it, thanks to their new "XP FOR CAPS ONLY" model.

I'm looking forward to seeing their subscriber numbers in 2 months time.

Hijinks · 2003-05-21, 03:09 PM

I dont give a f about br20.

What I do care about is br10, which at this pace will take me two months.

SilentRaider · 2003-05-21, 03:13 PM

Doesnt splitting the exp in a squad defeat the purpose of having a squad and therefore defeat a large part of the Planetside game playing experience? I just thought I would mention that.

Airlift · 2003-05-21, 03:22 PM

The problem for me isn't about the rate of exp, it's about how the rate of exp matches up to what you do (and more specifically, about what you don't do).

TurboJesus · 2003-05-21, 03:43 PM

Yea, the exp should be SHARED as in if i get 20 xp, so does everyone else. Now its going to take a long time to get to where i wanted to be. I wanted to be a Reinforced/Hvy/MediumAssault w/ either Eng or a vehicle cert of some kind. Now i think i can get Reinforced and the Hvy and medium assault after awhile, but i only play and hour and a half a day usually, so im totally screwed here. I thought the emphasis was on fighting in large battles with and against hundreds of players. Soon it'll turn into PlanetQuest where the point of the game is to find clever ways to level faster.

Mold · 2003-05-21, 03:45 PM

i didnt read all of the posts but they looked mostly the same, but heres my opinion of the topic.

i agree to the point your making. I dont have a problem with getting experience a lot slower then before, i actually realy like that as most of us do. But i just dont understand why they are giving 10 times more exp to a person who is getting kills on his own. I thought they were promoting squad play, but spitting up doesnt make sense... In my opinion i think if a solo guy gets 10bep's from a kill, then someone in a squad with someone who made a kill should get 10beps as well. Currently they would get 1bep unless they made the kill themselves. Thats how they had it in the beta, and thats how i think it should have stayed. Basically im saying a 20% bonus to exp when in a full squad doesnt seem to be a good enough bonus compared to going solo. Also before i didnt care if i was killing or helping someone getting kills....now it makes me think when the pounder max i am repairing is getting all the kills, i could be getting more points doing the killing myself.

and ya, i hate to admit i kinda like getting exp, its not the reason i play this game...but its there, so it does matter.

vawlk · 2003-05-21, 04:14 PM

urgh yer all making my head spin.

XP is not that slow
you still get more XP in a squad than if you weren't (or you are in the wrong squad)
WHAT HAPPENED IN BETA DOESN'T MATTER

If nothing else, the beta XP whores have themselves to blame. By zerging bases and never defending just to get massive amounts of XP, you proved to them the rate at which XP could be earned was higher than they thought so they had to limit it.

Ever hear of the term sandbagging?

Hell if people keep base hopping for xp, i bet you'll see a cap nerf coming too. They are trying to get people to play the game like it was meant to be played, which IMO would be more fun than hopping base to base to base to base to base...

Hopefully all you XP whores will cancel at the end of the first month.

LesserShade · 2003-05-21, 04:24 PM

this is why we should all start at br20 and be done with it

The br20 test in beta was the best. Only people interested in xp were commanders and the rest were just out to lock continents.

Regardless, I like the fact that the xp bonus for rehacking a base is as much as you get for capping a base, so that at least motivates those inclined to horde XP to turn around and keep the bases behind them.

TurboJesus · 2003-05-21, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by vawlk

If nothing else, the beta XP whores have themselves to blame. By zerging bases and never defending just to get massive amounts of XP, you proved to them the rate at which XP could be earned was higher than they thought so they had to limit it.

Goddamnit!! Pay attention, I'll space it out so you can under stand.
EXP
IN SQUADS
SHOULD NOT
BE DIVIDED
BY THE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE IN IT

There, thats what the post is about. I'm not gonna be in a fucking squad if i can get 10 times the kill xp of what i get in a squad, then, once i reach say, br5-6-7 then i would join a squad, but not in any of the XP hole supporting roles.

Hijinks · 2003-05-21, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by vawlk
urgh yer all making my head spin.

XP is not that slow

Right, it is actually faster if you are willing to play follow the cap.

Hell if people keep base hopping for xp, i bet you'll see a cap nerf coming too. They are trying to get people to play the game like it was meant to be played, which IMO would be more fun than hopping base to base to base to base to base...

You are wrong, thats exactly what they are promoting.

We started out last night playing how we wanted. We realized quickly that it isn't rewarding to try to hold off defenders, especally if you do it well because they never get a cap so you never get any resecure xp.

Hell, one time we let the enemy get the hack just so we could get the resecure xp.

So what did we do? We jumped on the cap rodeo. Round and round we went getting good exp but not really doing much.

THAT is what they are rewarding, so that is what we did.

EVILPIG · 2003-05-21, 05:06 PM

THE WORST PART OF THE NEW XP SYSTEM...

I do not care if they slowdown xp, fine better. I do feel that dividing squad xp is totally lame and hurts the foundation of squadding.

But the WORST PART of the new xp system is that the CAPs are worth far more than anything else you may do. All this does is cause folks to horde up in bases waiting for CAPs to go off. This is strategically lame and they are creating incentive for it to be done. It's better to start a CAP and move on to keeping towers secure or CAPing other available targets. It doesn't take alot to hold a CAP down if you are actively stopping the enemy from having nearby spawn points. While your forces are sitting around waiting for 15 minutes, the enemy is busy CAPing your other bases or towers. Without the huge CAP rewards, you'd see more large froces meeting on middle ground trying to push each other back. NEW CAP xp IS LAME. Make it less too.

instant · 2003-05-21, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by vawlk

They are trying to get people to play the game like it was meant to be played, which IMO would be more fun than hopping base to base to base to base to base...

How do you know how the game is "meant to be played".

The way the game is now they reward base caps and base defence, nothing else, no support roles, tower fights, controlling strategic areas (bridges etc), nothing, just the base and the damn CC. If you are in a squad your XP will be hurt, if you're not your CEP will be hurt.

This game is about having fun, and you have more fun when you have a wider range of options available to you as a player. The way it is now, only the powergamer 24/7s get these options and the others are doing the level threadmill famous in Everquest.

They might as well have made Planetside into "planes of planetside" an EQ expansion the way it is now..

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