Casual Observations on Population

tmartinez72 · 2003-05-29, 05:54 PM

Ok, nothing scientific, just a casual observation when you play.

Does it seem like the TR are just overwhelming in terms of population?

I play VS, and I see the same guys on my side all the time (perhaps it's the time we play or what, it's just strange. I don;t even squad with them).

It seems as though the TR are everywhere.

BUGGER · 2003-05-31, 01:00 AM

I dissagree. I've seen creed (TR) guy more than 5 times this past week, including today.

Also you do notice that Vanu is the lesser empire of the server right?

1024 · 2003-05-31, 08:26 PM

I disagree also, and im NC. Ido see some of the same people, but thats just becuase i go where the real fights are. NOt the dark corners of the world.

Ducimus · 2003-06-01, 02:56 PM

It depends on what time of day you play really. As for NC the underdog, or not having enough people? HA!

Acutaly NC is kicking ass and taking names, it sometimes it's really depressing being on the recieving end all the time.

Now this is all a hunch but i think NC has a couple good leaders, at the head of some good infrastructure. When you go pissing around in their backyard, they come out to defend. THeir response time is really damn quick too. So quick, as to make me think they have a group or groups of people who have dedicated themselves to be a rapid reaction force. I think this because

a.) their response time is unreal, and
B.) NC as a whole still manages to maintain an offensive force.

Another problem is witin the Terran Repbulic itself. I think we have alot of lone wolves. On top of that i see very little organization. This isnt to say that their isn't any, but TR has entirely far too many loose cannons doing... whatever. What i see coming out of NC is combined arms. What i mean in this is that they acutally use their land vehicles, in conjunction with infantry and Air attacks. While TR has plenty of reaver drivers to go around, i personnaly dont really see any land vehicles used in conjunction to the degree that i see it from NC. The end result is we get our asses handed to us. As i type this, NC is in the process of locking down 3 contients, and from what ive seen on the field, virtually unopposed. What TR opposition is thrown up, is probably not even in a squad, just a bunch of "instant actions".

During the evening, the TR seems to be a bit different. I know we have 1 or 2 good leaders cause at night is when we seem to do better. An intresting thing that i noticed was the pack mentalty. Get enough people together in one spot, and once they gain momentum we ravange the countryside. Like a big stampedeing herd moving foward. I nearly gained 1 BR and i wasnt even teamed. But an intresting thing i noticed was a nifty little trick to "corrall" the herd to make it go where you wanted. I don't know if it was intentional, but it defenatly got people to where they needed to be.

Overall though, this stuff about the TR being overpowered is nonesense. I've seen what the NC is capable of on Markov and its nasty. NC during a certain timeframe of the day, pounds the TR into the dirt. They're key to all of this is their organization and infrastructure, and coordination, and the TR's lack thereof. I really wish we'd get our act together, but i dont see it happening anytime soon.

1024 · 2003-06-01, 04:39 PM

I've also noticed a larger amount of vangaurds out there than prowlers. Whenever isee a prowler, fully manned, and actually doing something otehr than driving up and down the same road over and over, im like, "Whoa! A prowler!" But i ALWAYS see vangaurds out there, and man us NC are good with those things, i
ve seen some CRAZY ass gunning with those things. IT's incredibly scary, and im really glad that im NC.

Although it might have somethign to do with the fact that im NC that i see a lot of vangaurds, but whenever i attack a TR base the thing i see the most of are pounder MAXs.

I really think that the TR has to get it together in teamwork better, but the fact of how powerful the cycler is gives them a pretty significant edge on infantry vs infantry combat, where the bulk of the war is. I think that if it wasnt for the Cycler the TR would be in real trouble.

Ducimus · 2003-06-01, 05:22 PM

I'd say the cycler is very verstile but not incredibly powerful. ALthough, ive never been on the recieving end of one either. Now, those jackhammers, those things hurt. I go from 100 health and 150 armor to dead in less than 0.5 second. When i hear those things going off, all i want is more distance from them.

I really think TR needs to get more vehicles in the war, and create a centralized command structure. Theres 4 things we have alot of.

Infantry
Reavers
Max's.
Lone wolfs.

That said, ive noticed less and less people seem to be using MAX's as they get more BEP's. Prowlers are rare. I see, maybe 1 or 2 once in a blue moon.

But, my overall impression is that NC has a figurehead, it seems like it has a central point where communction happends. Im betting they get together, they talk, plan and discuss. Now in TR ive been in a few squads that were taking its orders from a higher up, but most of the squads ive been in, the squadleader more often then not seems to be acting independantly. (IE "Yea i have a squad, lets run over here and take this base")

Generally speaking, im kinda bummed. While i can't positively say that everything ive stated in this thread is the bonified truth on how it is in the TR, these are just my casual observations. I genuinly wish that im wrong. In part, i am, because such leadership does exist, however, not nearly to the degree it should be, we are in dire need of a better infrastructure, which the NC is seemingly in no shortage of.

1024 · 2003-06-01, 07:56 PM

Im sorry to break it to you, but to my knowledge theres no "Head Command" for the NC. Theres a bunch of really organized outfits, such as the 66th Special Ops "Devil Dogs", along with a lot of multi-outfit alliances, but no one is running the show from up high in the ranks.

We're just good.

Ducimus · 2003-06-02, 03:49 AM

Doesnt have to be a head honcho calling the shots. But if you have well organized outfits, that communicate with each other, thats enough to produce the level of coordination im seeing, or think im seeing

Either way, its frustrating, and ive seen what NC is capable of. NC the Underdog and underpowered and TR overpowered is a total urban legend.

Everay · 2003-06-03, 01:15 AM

the only place ive seen TR being overpowered was when im gonna take on a Dual Cycler, and lately ive been killing more and more of them, and i do agree, ive been in a squad a lil late to a hack when the command chat was going on, "hit this base next'' and there is always at least a hundered people there, i dont think ive ever seen Vanu or TR do this

Ducimus · 2003-06-03, 03:29 AM

Ya know i was just glancing at the leaderboard. Scrolled down to the bottom, and looked at leading outfits by members. Then it hit me. No wonder they "appear" to be so well organized, NC has a couple big outfits. Thats alot of people who share a chat channel, that works no matter where you are no?

Glaynor · 2003-06-03, 09:16 AM

I think also what hurts the TR alot is it is newbie favorite. Most people I know who play, begin playing TR.

I play NC and have found that at least once a day I get into a phenomenal squad. I've been very impressed with the gameplay, fighting skills and tactics that I've seen from my comrades-at-arms.

Matri00 · 2003-06-03, 10:01 AM

well that seems quiet true....anyway they ARE newbies but they are many....way too many...and most of them use the mini chaingun with enough firepower to kill an entire squad....anyway im getting my PS next week (i hope) and im gonna kick some ass on marcov :P

Ducimus · 2003-06-03, 11:18 AM

Actually, i think more people use the Striker than the chaingun.
I've tried the chaingun, its to situational for my tastes. That said, id rather use a Jackhammer. Thats a weapon that acutally WORKS.

I do think your right, the TR seems to be everyones first choice when playing this game. Probably the backstory to the empires has more to do with it than the weapons. Most newbies jump into the game with little to no knowledge of the details i'd think.

Matri00 · 2003-06-03, 12:10 PM

well....i read almost every article about PS so thats why i joined NC...the freedom fighters....anyway for the newbies here heres a hint of the empires:

Terran republic- keepers of peace, executers of civilians, fast weapons "loyalty until death" (gay....if u die on auraxis and respawn u can become a traitor legaly:S)

Vanu Sovereignty- Experimenting things on humans ,thinking its gonna make their life better, Energy weapons "technology equals might" (bullshit)

New conglomerate- Freedom fighters, the best empire you can choose, high-damage-per-shot weapons "Freedom over oppression"

that should get them started huh...

Ducimus · 2003-06-03, 01:50 PM

Actually the Terran Republic is the estabishment from Earth i think. The New Conglomerate exists only on the one planet. Its a rebel faction. It does not exist on earth, or any other place in the planetside universe. So I'd be careful and tread lightly when attempting to take the moral high ground. A freedom fighter in some countries, is a terrorist in others. In war, everyone thinks their right, but the reality is, who's to say? and whos to judge? by who's standards?

Israeli murder's are called Commandos. Arab commandos are called terrorists. Contra killers are called freedom fighters. Well if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part of it to us, do they. - George Carlin