3rd party Voice Communications highly unlikely...

[�io]

Originally posted by diluted
thinking about that.. they need more info on when the public beta comes. i wanna get my ubercomp before then.

Yeah me gotsa do that too. Need some RAM a a new GPU, i was fine till my watch broke and i fell in love with a sweet titanium one for a mere 559$+tx

Now i have to choose between looking good or playing PS.

(well ok i'll probably get both somehow )

[TG_NightHawk]

If they didn't allow voice programs,(I mentioned this before)the outfit(clan) I was in, would have to use our nextels(walkie-talkie feature). That would be one way around not having voice available!!

[Hatte]

From reading Smokejumper's post ealier, i think that the dev understand the need for voice comms, and if they wont provide ingame comms, they will leave the option open for external programs.

[Whoracle]

its better that way. in game voice comm sucks :/

you'll get retards holding down buttons on accident, spamming, etc. itll be amess.

outside voicecomm will be much better. more control over who gets to talk, less strain on the game itself.

Just like EQ PS will shutdown all 3rd party programs that are running, to try and prevent hackers and cheaters.

Supprised no one mentioned this yet....


but...
<font size=+1>EverQuest NEVER has, And Never Will shut down 3rd party programs automatically</font>

They had a poll asking players if they want their computer scaned only for 3rd party cheating programs, they got a like 10% 'no' vote, and 70%+ vote for the scaning, and went ahead and scraped the idea... to give you an idea of how they delt with it...


dunno who you heard from that EQ is the program that forces programs to shut down... well.. it doesn't....

worst EQ does is lock the alt/tab key in Win 98, but in Win 2k and the later versions Microsoft disabled the ability to... disable the system commands.. and EQ hasnt tried to fight them on it...


Furthermore, EQ/PlanetSide would have no way to tell what 1 .exe file does from another... So it CANT disable all 3rd party programs since it'd need to store a list of every possible program out there that Windows needs/might need/could possibly need.. so EQ/PS doesnt crash your OS... Also, it would need the files size, & modified date to make sure you didnt edit an 'unused' .exe name that EQ/PS 'allows' anyways to 'hide' your hack...

Also, it'd need to support your AV & Firewall, and other internet programs that let you connect, I'm sure a decent Anti-Virus wont let itself get shut down, and start flagging EverQuest/Planetside as a Virus(Though some call EverQuest a virus/plague), causing steams of E-Mails and flooding of EQ/PS' Tech support....



Can you see what I'm getting at here? heh... The task is soo immense that they couldnt force shutting down of 3rd party programs.....


what Planetside COULD do though, is to track data and make sure the numbers arnt fudged with on the way to the processor & back, and to make sure the gun doesnt 'jerk' inhumanly fast frequently... Kinda like the Counter-Strike "anti-hack" programs that people used.. you had to install it & you could play on the "enabled" servers with only people who also installed the anti-cheat program..... only they could incorperate it into the game code

oh yeah.. I'd like to see Outside voice-comm as well, in-game voice com(unless controlled well), would be harder to manage...


would like to see it allow you to alt-tab so you could connect to the group's voice comm they are using....

in FPS's any time not spent typing = good =p

[Whoracle]

i played some beta RPG game where when you clicked the EXE it loaded a third party hack/voice software checker to make sure you werent getting unfair advantages.

that would suck if they implemented that lol

[Hatte]

No doubt they will have some sort of anti-cheat working, how effective it is, is an entirely different matter, the game needs model/skin consistancy for sure(prevent spiked models you can see from greater distances), but as i really havent seen the game other than screenshots i dont know how well an aimbot/wallhack would work.

[Whoracle]

i wonder how long before HaPpY gets his hands into this

[Hatte]

Who would "HaPpY" be?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I'd be more worried about an aimbot than a spiked model. Spiked models were interesting but I don't think they will have the same effect as they did in like CS or quakes or other closer quarter fps's.

[Whoracle]

HaPpY is legend

[Hatte]

I'd be more worried about an aimbot than a spiked model.

As would I, but a spiked model would be incredibly useful for scouting, fly over a dence forest and you see 15 spikes moving towards your base, u have a huge advantage as you would never know they were there otherwise. Hopefully the game will not be all hitscan weapons, so it will limit an aimbots effectivness.

[Whoracle]

HaPpY is the person that made cheats/hacks for Tribes/Tribes2/UT

and i think he was behind something in Everquest too

[Zarparchior]

I would worry about hacks for non-MMO games. Have no worries.