The "Real" Bad Buys - Page 3

1024 · 2003-06-08, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Zatrais
Bad guys, simple...

Its the NC and the VS, the VS wish to remove our humanity, hell they're already doing it by making us never dying sterile soldiers. If everyone was like that evolution would stop and humanity would cease to exists due to the widespread madness that mass "immortality" would create.

Then theres the so called freedom fighting NC thats nothing more terrorists that commits acts of war against a republic thats keept the peace for over 1000 years!

Loyalty until death!

I htink you're opinion might be jsut a LITTLE bit one sided.

Zatrais · 2003-06-08, 07:30 PM

Hey it's my view and the one i'm fighting for in PS =)

Onizuka · 2003-06-08, 07:38 PM

Well this is simple, its like star wars. NC are the rebels guerilla fighting the TR in their deathstar. And the VS are rebels that just dont believe in the TR. So the TR are the badguys. its just plain ovbious. I mean, i have no problem picking the bad guys as my main character. and if i was TR i would bet i would be saying the same thing that i am now.... im serious.
it really seems to me the tr are because they wouldnt let the scientist on auraxis mess with the vanu stuff and they TAGGED EVERYONE whereever they went i mean wtf.

Doppler · 2003-06-08, 08:10 PM

The simple fact is the TR are in a manner of speaking the governing body in demolition man. Sure everyone is safe, crime is controlled, the strans run on time etc. To do this the TR wields unheard of levels of power. Maybe on the homeworld this works out ok, maybe they have a system of checks and blaances, however the sliver of TR represented on Auraxis is basicly a military unit, and the excel mostly at killing people and breaking their shit. It's not that their evil or that their tactics are flawed, they just use what they have to work with. Maybe they fired on the protestors because they arnt equiped for a police action.

As to the kool aid thing, let em kill themselves, more air for me.

The NC the way i see it sprung out of researchers and a few of the more lbieral minded members of the military. They chose to break away to preserve a personal freedom that for right or wrong they felt was being ran roughshod over. You cant really falt them this logic The problems comes that whenever you use violence to perform a means you invite violence on yourself. They felt they'd been pushed too far, the TR's didnt feel they'd been puyshed far enough, the TR's see them as disloyal, they see themselves as the ultimate patriot who's to say.

The Vanu are the hardest faction to fit, most likely composed primarily of archeologists and sociologists and maybe a few meglomaniacs for good measure. They dont like either option the TR and the NC represent so they figure, "Hey the Vanu had better stuff then us, they must have had it sorta right" So they break away and begin turning vanu tech towards the purpose of war, because lets face it, it's a small planet and reguardless of ideology there's not enough land water and vanu tech to go around. Vanu wants to try something completely difrent and that's cool and all but i can just see the TR and NC going "Uh guys, those aliens you got the tech from, notice their not around anymore? What ya spose happened to em? Stop punching buttons on that thing."

Happy lil Elf · 2003-06-08, 08:21 PM

TR fights the NC because they're rebels and Vanu because they're viewed as freaks.

NC fights the TR for freedom and the Vanu because, again, they're viewed as freaks.

VS fights the TR because the TR wants to wipe them out, ditto for NC and because they want all the Vanu tech for themselves

In the end no one is really the good guy, kinda like real life

Revolver · 2003-06-08, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by NeoTassadar
I will now look at my sig and follow my own advice.

In that case, maybe you're gonna go crazy. Maybe all the VS are crazy, and want to destroy the world (3rd Impact, Neon Genesis Evangelion).

NeoTassadar · 2003-06-08, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Zatrais
Its the NC and the VS, the VS wish to remove our humanity, hell they're already doing it by making us never dying sterile soldiers. If everyone was like that evolution would stop and humanity would cease to exists due to the widespread madness that mass "immortality" would create.

Aha! But we Vanu are stimulating evolution artificially! And as for the widespread madness, it's hard enough to predict the actions of a single above-average sentient mind, much less a group of thousands-millions (billions if your'e talking ALL humanity).

snak3plissk3n · 2003-06-11, 06:09 PM

Look i know everyone has different views im just saying the TR are really oppresive they keep track of you everywhere you go they stop your protests and prevent us from expanding technology found on Auraxis. plus if you cansider the nc to be terrorists isnt that somewhat like calling our forefathers terrorists we broke off from the main nation and fought for freedom but you dont call them terrorists.

and as for the vs well they are just freaky they are obsessed with getting technology and becoming something that is inhuman that is the last thing i would want for my fate. but i do like their stuff

not like they are trying to enslave us coff coff TR coff coff

<--tr

TheRegurgitator · 2003-06-11, 06:18 PM

/me whispers to the Vanu Soverignty leader "So you propose an alliance against the terrans" "Yes" to be continued... bwuhuhahaha

You terrans think ur so tough

(We were all terrans at one point thus we were all stupid at one point... some have become smarter, the NC and well a few of the VS, TR stay the same stupid people)

EDIT:

plus if you cansider the nc to be terrorists isnt that somewhat like calling our forefathers terrorists we broke off from the main nation and fought for freedom but you dont call them terrorists.

That just gave me an idea TR are british NC is american and VS is .... um lets see oh yeah France

tmartinez72 · 2003-06-11, 07:30 PM

I am Vanu, and I have no idea why. I look at the Vanu tech, I look at the tr/nc tech, I look at the Vanu tech again, and I weep horribly.

Face it, Vanus are a bunch of crazies. Trust me, it's a big galactic joke to someone out there about the true knowledge of "Lost" Vanu Aliens.

The light at the end of the tunnel for Vanu is a Seltzer bottle and a cream pie in the face.

The TR seem too uptight, and the NC look like a bunch of slackers. The Vanu, even with their heads in the clouds, want to get things done.

Best reason to be Vanu? We have the best looking female uniforms out of all of the empires.

NeoTassadar · 2003-06-11, 07:41 PM

...And the Lancer.

I sometimes think some of our other guns are alien remote controls mistaken for beam weapons.

FliggenMan · 2003-06-11, 08:48 PM

In all reality, there is no "bad guy" in any war. It's simply a question of beliefs and willing to fight for them. Of course, not everyone will follow every else's beliefs. History is written by those who win wars, not lose them.

The Terran Republic in this case are a tyrranical military force that threaten the life of those who do not join them, and justify their threats with responsive action. Yet could they not be scared that this threat of anarchy and alien fanaticism could endanger the Terran that still remain on Auraxis? The New conglomerate are said to be anarchist rebels, yet they state that they simply wan't freedom of tyranny and emphasize individual freedom over a govt. with control. The Vanu Sovereignty are said to be alien freaks who plot to use their twisted discoveries to threaten existence, but they simply say that they are advancing at a more rapid pace than the other empires and wish to continue their evolutionary process.
In the end, the true criminals are the Terran Republic. It knocked over the first domino by encasing the liberties of the once free peoples of Auraxis, and put the public of it's force under a dangerously controlling need-to-know basis, particularly the Vanu. They stick to traditions that they say have maintained peace for over 1,000 yrs., but did they not limit the liberties of others under the threat of persecution or death? I see no peace there. By the way, the NC do not use the excuse of freedom to kill, they use it to protect their own lives. But they fear the vanu for ridiculous reasons and attack them due to misunderstandings, not even questioning a possible co-existence, even with a common enemy. Not as guilty as the TR, but hey're up there.

Mythos · 2003-06-11, 10:22 PM

We are Vanu, Resistance is futile.

*whispers come from background*

What?! What do you mean our weapons are not affecting them??!

*more whispers*

What???? You mean one of their mobile armor suits just killed 20 of our men by just bouncing nades around a corner killing them before they could even get away?!

*more whispers*

Damnit man! Call up the blackmarket! We need some punishers, decimators, and rocklets!

*whispers*

I dont give a rats ass about faction pride! I want something that can kill these terr0nz! And our weapons are not even phazeing them!

*whispers fade away as running footsteps are heard*

Ahem...well, I see that resistance isnt futile, I see that our so called Advanced tech weaponry does little more than ticket you, and that you have weapons that call kill around corners before our soldiers can even get away.

Just wait..one day, when the gods smile upon us again..you shall fall.

Resistance is futile.

On a further note..

Useing EQ as a reference.
Terrans = Dr00ds
New con = wizards
Vanu = rangers

Hellsfire123 · 2003-06-11, 10:37 PM

From what i remember.

TR are fighting to regain control of everyone. They feel that by limiting the knowledge of the wormhole collapse, that they were keeping the peace. They also feel that the Vanu technology was dangerous, and shouldnt be used.

The Vanu felt that the technology was the key to evolution. Becuase they were so willing to use this technology they were feared and shunned by the others. Not willing to give it up, they fight the TR from there oppressive rule. When the vanu offered a truce to the NC, but it was rejected based on fear.

The NC are furious that the wormhole collapse was kept secret. They feel that the government is way too controlling, and that a regime change is in order. But when the vanu offer to help them by taking away their humanity, they realise that both factions are a threat to their way of life, and declare war on both.

Thats what i remember from the propoganda, it should be fairly accurate.